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To: MarkBsnr; metmom; RnMomof7
Here’s a hint: look at the sections. Words mean something. They don’t mean them to mean what you want them to mean when you want them to mean it. That is the difference between Catholicism and you guys.

Muslims trace their roots back to Abraham. Just as we and the Jews do. We are the only 3 who do. Bone up on history, it might prove informative.

I have no desire to make this another Saturday nite in the War Zone with Catholics VS Protestants. Perhaps you enjoy this as an opportunity to tell us how "dishonest" we are or that we are all "idiots" because we don't genuflect to your Pope. I do not wish to waste a good weekend night on internet "wrasslin". Entertain the thought that perhaps y'all need to bone up on history. If you seriously think that Allah is in any way the same as Jehovah, you have not apparently bothered to read the Koran's description of him. Here's a hint: Allah is not the Creator. Allah is not a Trinity. Jesus is NOT the son of Allah.

There's more than enough to convince an honest Christian that we do NOT worship the same God as Muslims. I know it must be difficult to accept that your very own Catechism, written by your magesterium, can contain errors. Those who desire truth will be rewarded by the source and giver of all truth. Those who blindly follow a tradition do not have the same confidence.

136 posted on 09/03/2011 6:23:19 PM PDT by boatbums ( God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums; RnMomof7

It’s the same old, same old.

It doesn’t really mean what it says. It means what we say it means.


137 posted on 09/03/2011 6:39:09 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: boatbums
I have no desire to make this another Saturday nite in the War Zone with Catholics VS Protestants. Perhaps you enjoy this as an opportunity to tell us how "dishonest" we are or that we are all "idiots" because we don't genuflect to your Pope.

This is deflecting the issue. The issue is that you guys are all defending each other while trying to make the rather plainly written Catechism seem like it means other than it means. If I hear a recant, then I will take it as a civilized Christian.

If you seriously think that Allah is in any way the same as Jehovah, you have not apparently bothered to read the Koran's description of him. Here's a hint: Allah is not the Creator. Allah is not a Trinity. Jesus is NOT the son of Allah.

I have read the Koran and have a copy. Here's an even bigger hint: the Jewish OT God is not a Trinity either. He is monotheistic in the exact sense, as is Allah. Islam treats Jesus as holy. Judaism does not.

There's more than enough to convince an honest Christian that we do NOT worship the same God as Muslims.

Perhaps you do not realize just how far Christians have taken OT Scripture in meaning from the original Jewish meaning. We do not know if the Council of Jamnia actually existed, but if it didn't, then there certainly was an equivalent. Christianity departs from Judaism to the same degree that Joseph Smith and the LDS departed from Christianity. If you don't believe me, there are plenty of Jews on FR. Ask them. Start a thread and ask for information.

I know it must be difficult to accept that your very own Catechism, written by your magesterium, can contain errors. Those who desire truth will be rewarded by the source and giver of all truth. Those who blindly follow a tradition do not have the same confidence.

We all have the choice. We can follow the traditions of Christ as given to us by the Apostles and their successors. Or we can follow the tradition of the god in the mirror. Your choice and mine. To be made individually.

Please leave with this thought. I do not say that the Islamic Allah is the same as Jehovah or the Christian God the Father. I will say that semi pagan Mohammedans do trace their religious roots back to Abraham. As do we. Nobody else does. We say that they have a glimpse of God and worship Him very imperfectly, as opposed to, say, the Bushmen of the Kalahari, or the Marxists, or ...

138 posted on 09/03/2011 6:41:29 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move m to do so.)
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