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To: Jvette; Mad Dawg
It helps to remember who reigns at the Right Hand of God. Jesus ascended to heaven in His Human body. Not separate from it.

Yes, Christ reigns at the right hand of the Father, but not in His Human body. When the Father raised Christ from the dead, Christ put on His eternal, glorified body. If He was still in His Human body, could He have walked through walls at this point?

1,230 posted on 09/06/2011 12:50:44 PM PDT by Avalon Hussar
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To: Avalon Hussar
Yes, Christ reigns at the right hand of the Father, but not in His Human body. When the Father raised Christ from the dead, Christ put on His eternal, glorified body. If He was still in His Human body, could He have walked through walls at this point?

Exactly what I was thinking....

It was A body, but not the human one which died and was buried.

1,234 posted on 09/06/2011 12:56:07 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Avalon Hussar

And is it not His human body which has been glorified?

Could Jesus have walked through locked doors before the resurrection?

Well, we know He could walk on water after seemingly appearing out of nowhere.

And we know that He could conceal Himself even in the midst of His accusers

Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. John 8:59

And how about this?

28 On hearing these words, the whole assembly became indignant. 29 They rose up and brought him out of the town, 30 to the edge of the hill on which Nazareth is built, intending to throw him down the cliff. But he passed through their midst and went his way. Luke 4:29-30.

Or how about the fact that He used dirt and His spit to cure someone, or knew that someone had touched just the hem of His cloak?

Could Jesus have commanded the mountain to move and it would have? He claimed we could with faith as small as a mustard seed.

See how things arise, questions come up and how are they to be answered? And one question or assertion leads to another.

Who are we to trust to answer them? Scripture surely tells us He did these things, but how are we to know how or why?


1,243 posted on 09/06/2011 1:15:24 PM PDT by Jvette
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To: Avalon Hussar
If He was still in His Human body, could He have walked through walls at this point?

Again, I'd want to stick with Paul's language precisely because I don't know all the ins and outs. Paul says there is a natural body and there is a spiritual body. He doesn't (that I recall) talk about a "human" and an "inhuman" body.

So I'd want to say that Jesus was no longer confined to his "of the earth, earthy" body, but I think the "spiritual body" is a "spiritual human body."

So it's not the loss of humanity but the loss of the earthy body that makes for the through the wall stuff.

I personally am confined to "off the wall" stuff.

And there's the empty tomb. Why is it empty if he'snot using that body anymore. To me that suggests that the 'natural' body was transformer,not shuffled off and left behind.

1,255 posted on 09/06/2011 2:45:13 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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