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My Faith: Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN), from Catholic to Muslim
CNN ^ | 9/1/11 | Chris Welch

Posted on 09/02/2011 9:07:47 AM PDT by marshmallow

Minneapolis, Minnesota (CNN) –Prior to 2006, few people even knew that then-Minnesota state legislator Keith Ellison was a Muslim. Because of his English name, he said, no one thought to ask.

But five years ago, when he ran for a seat in the United States House of Representatives - a race he would go on to win - word of his religious affiliation began to spread.

“When I started running for Congress it actually took me by surprise that so many people were fascinated with me being the first Muslim in Congress,” said Ellison, a Democrat now serving his third term in the House.

“But someone said to me, ‘Look Keith, think of a person of Japanese origin running for Congress six years after Pearl Harbor–this might be a news story.’”

Though Ellison's status as the first Muslim elected to Congress is widely known, fewer are aware that he was born into a Catholic family in Detroit and was brought up attending Catholic schools.

But he said he was never comfortable with that faith.

“I just felt it was ritual and dogma,” Ellison said. “Of course, that’s not the reality of Catholicism, but it’s the reality I lived. So I just kind of lost interest and stopped going to Mass unless I was required to.”

It wasn’t until he was a student at Wayne State University in Detroit when Ellison began, “looking for other things.”

(Excerpt) Read more at religion.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Islam; Theology
KEYWORDS: blackmuslims; islam; keithellison; muslim
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To: caww

Why don’t you name your source?

“Yahoo Answers” — word for word copy

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060627050748AASKIZb

If there is, as you said, a portion of that post from a Cathlic souce, please give it.


4,121 posted on 09/18/2011 11:24:56 PM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne

see post 4119


4,122 posted on 09/18/2011 11:26:35 PM PDT by caww
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To: Judith Anne

also see post 4118


4,123 posted on 09/18/2011 11:28:33 PM PDT by caww
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To: Religion Moderator; caww

I double checked the quotes and not all of them are from the yahoo link. CAWW is correct, they came from various sources online.


4,124 posted on 09/18/2011 11:39:15 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: caww

Shows a remarkable ignorance about the Rosary.


4,125 posted on 09/18/2011 11:40:16 PM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne; caww

Fail. Only the first few came from that source, other came from other sources. Why don’t you mind your own business, JA?

It isn’t unusual for people who do research to have collections of amalgamated sources combined and stored on their computer and sometimes sources do get lost in those collections.


4,126 posted on 09/18/2011 11:41:24 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Judith Anne; caww

No, it shows the pagan dispersion and adaptation in western Christianity.


4,127 posted on 09/18/2011 11:43:32 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut; Cronos; Salvation; sayuncledave; Hegewisch Dupa; trisham; Jvette; MarkBsnr

Mind my own business? I’m a Catholic, this is a lame and inaccurate discussion of the Rosary. What do you think my business IS, if not participation in a discussion of the Rosary? Particularly an inaccurate discussion of the Rosary?

The Rosary is a solemn meditation on events in the life, death and resurrection of Christ.

Mnd giving me the other sources?


4,128 posted on 09/18/2011 11:49:48 PM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: reaganaut
No, it shows the pagan dispersion and adaptation in western Christianity.

How does a meditation on the events in the life, death and resurrection of Christ do that?

4,129 posted on 09/18/2011 11:51:50 PM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne; Cronos; Salvation; sayuncledave; Hegewisch Dupa; trisham; Jvette; MarkBsnr; caww; ...

Yeah, mind your own business you butted into a conversation between the RM and CAWW.

Your hypersensitivity is annoying. Many things in Christianity have pagan roots, that doesn’t make them not useful or purposeful, it is just a fact. While I have never been a fan of the rosary, I have kept the one from my years in Catholic school and remember the meditations. I’m not one of the ones who claim Catholics worship Mary either but I will admit I have always been uncomfortable with the Marian emphasis of the Rosary.

And I’m not your lap dog, so do your own research.


4,130 posted on 09/18/2011 11:56:02 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Judith Anne

The use of beads, similarities in prayer and function, ie the mechanics of the Rosary are based in pagan tradition. No biggie so are a lot of Christian traditions and holidays.


4,131 posted on 09/18/2011 11:57:42 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

You said: Fail. Only the first few came from that source, other came from other sources. Why don’t you mind your own business, JA?

I asked: Mnd giving me the other sources?

Then you told me And I’m not your lap dog, so do your own research.

What research? You made a claim, back it up.


4,132 posted on 09/19/2011 12:02:28 AM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne

Just to be clear Judith Anne...I have not been having a discussion with you about Rosaries, of which there are indeed many types, used by many faiths and religions, having their history in various pagan ceremonies historically as well as today...though you are free to comment in general of course, as are any on FR.


4,133 posted on 09/19/2011 12:35:49 AM PDT by caww
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To: Mad Dawg; smvoice

It’s moving from Romans 7 to Romans 8.


4,134 posted on 09/19/2011 12:53:55 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: boatbums; Mad Dawg

Check on the tab for Greek at this link......

http://biblos.com/philippians/2-5.htm

“KJV with Strong’s
Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus”

*Attitude* does seem to be a really good translation, if you go by the technical definition of the word. It seems in our language usage, however, attitude implies a more emotional response as opposed to an actual way of thinking. It may be more our corruption of the word *attitude* than anything.

touto.................5124..........D-ASN..........this

phroneite.............5426..........V-PAM-2P..........have way to think


4,135 posted on 09/19/2011 1:09:34 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: reaganaut; boatbums; stonehouse01
We ‘cooperate’ by our faith, not works. All we must do is believe, good works flow out of the belief, but is not a requirement for salvation.

That was very succinctly put. Excellent way of expressing it.

This is all the action required......

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

4,136 posted on 09/19/2011 1:12:48 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: caww; Judith Anne; Religion Moderator; reaganaut
I think the moderator and I can handle this fine.

I agree. Nobody needs to hold the RM's hand so he can do his job.

4,137 posted on 09/19/2011 1:20:21 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Judith Anne; caww; reaganaut
Shows a remarkable ignorance about the Rosary.

Fine. Then refute it point by point and show caww where he's wrong, using links of course, instead of just acting like the Self-Appointed Posting Police.

You can start with this one.....

caww: -The rosary has 10 times as many prayers addressed to mary as to God the father, with none addressed to Christ or the Holy Spirit. It is designed as a devotion to Mary thus exhaulting a human being above God.

Last count was 50 "Hail Mary's" and "5 Our Father's".

Is that incorrect, the numbers of each prayer?

BTW, should we whine about pinging the cadre?

4,138 posted on 09/19/2011 1:31:51 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
Yes, it's better if everyone stays out when a moderator steps in...they know what they're doing IMO and important the conversation between Moderator and Poster flows smoothly so that there is no misunderstanding in what's being corrected.

When this is so we all learn clarity as the parties directly involved dialog...I have learned in the past when something might not be clear by just observing their exchange.

4,139 posted on 09/19/2011 1:33:45 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Please see 4119


4,140 posted on 09/19/2011 2:39:36 AM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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