Posted on 09/02/2011 9:07:47 AM PDT by marshmallow
Minneapolis, Minnesota (CNN) –Prior to 2006, few people even knew that then-Minnesota state legislator Keith Ellison was a Muslim. Because of his English name, he said, no one thought to ask.
But five years ago, when he ran for a seat in the United States House of Representatives - a race he would go on to win - word of his religious affiliation began to spread.
“When I started running for Congress it actually took me by surprise that so many people were fascinated with me being the first Muslim in Congress,” said Ellison, a Democrat now serving his third term in the House.
“But someone said to me, ‘Look Keith, think of a person of Japanese origin running for Congress six years after Pearl Harbor–this might be a news story.’”
Though Ellison's status as the first Muslim elected to Congress is widely known, fewer are aware that he was born into a Catholic family in Detroit and was brought up attending Catholic schools.
But he said he was never comfortable with that faith.
“I just felt it was ritual and dogma,” Ellison said. “Of course, that’s not the reality of Catholicism, but it’s the reality I lived. So I just kind of lost interest and stopped going to Mass unless I was required to.”
It wasn’t until he was a student at Wayne State University in Detroit when Ellison began, “looking for other things.”
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Yes, it is ALL about “The Blood”. Praise God!
Amen!
Were only male babies saved in the Old Testament?
Of course because God only loves boys. /s
The male was the head of the house, the Covenant applied to the entire household.
But, with the New Covenant, baptism is for everyone. Men, woman, babies. It is the new circumcision.
Oh, but there is MORE! As Christ is the head and we are the body, joined irrevocably by tenon and sinew...
Col 2:18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,We are made, or at the least being made, priests and kings in Him:
Col 2:19 And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.
Rev_1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
Rev_5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
If we ARE joined to Christ, tenon and sinew, what need for intervention? What need for mediation? Our nourishment comes from the Head- He is our example, and our Mediator and Redeemer. Do as HE would do.
“Strong’s exhaustive concordance.
A primary verb; to “loosen” (literally or figuratively) — break (up), destroy, dissolve, (un-)loose, melt, put off.
NASB Word Usage
annuls (1), break (1), breaking (1), broke down (1), broken (4), destroy (2), destroyed (3),
loose (2), loosed (2), putting an end to (1), release (1), released (7), removed (1),
take off (1), unbind (1), untie (8), untied (1), untying (4). Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
No matter how you look at it, it was the blood that removed our sins from us. Play silly word games if you want. It doesn’t change what the scriptures say. The only revisions of the Bible that don’t render it “wash” are the new “per-versions” (http://www.av1611.org/wash.html). The older versions used “washed” for a reason. I’ll keep looking.”
Wait, I found your pope. Though I don’t think he is Catholic. Of course it could be any one of you.
Ephesians 3:1-12 1For this reason I, Paul, a prisoner for Christ Jesus on behalf of you Gentiles— 2assuming that you have heard of the stewardship of God’s grace that was given to me for you, 3 how the mystery was made known to me by revelation, as I have written briefly. 4 When you read this, you can perceive my insight into the mystery of Christ, 5which was not made known to the sons of men in other generations as it has now been revealed to his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit. 6This mystery is that the Gentiles are fellow heirs, members of the same body, and partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel.
7 Of this gospel I was made a minister according to the gift of God’s grace, which was given me by the working of his power. 8To me, though I am the very least of all the saints, this grace was given, to preach to the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ, 9and to bring to light for everyone what is the plan of the mystery hidden for ages in God who created all things, 10so that through the church the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly places. 11This was according to the eternal purpose that he has realized in Christ Jesus our Lord, 12in whom we have boldness and access with confidence through our faith in him.
"Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world are ye subject to ordinances, (Touch not, taste not, handle not); Which ALL are to perish with the using;)AFTER THE COMMANDMENTS AND DOCTRINES OF MEN?" Col.2:20-22.
Why follow like puppy dogs the rules of fallible men? It's carnal, and satifies nothing but the flesh and puffed up vanity.
What's circumcision got to do with it? I wasn't talking about circumcision.
Forgiveness can only be obtained with the shedding of blood which is why the blood of Jesus had to be shed (past tense) once for all since the blood of bulls and goats did not take away sin.
You’re right! We don’t need someone to stand in or be “another Christ”. We have our leader and he’s the real Christ. Jesus Christ.
Matthew 26:27-29 27And he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he gave it to them, saying, "Drink of it, all of you, 28for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.
Hebrews 9:22 Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.
1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.
AMEN! Let YHWH be true and every man a liar!
Col 2 is one of my very favorite passages... It is SO very profound! one could spend weeks contemplating all that it says and means. So many use it poorly, but it is so VERY deep!
Do you realize you are making my case for me? Remission does not mean to clean or bathe, it means a payment of a debt, as in to remit.
Water is symbolic of the Holy Spirit.
It is the old circumcision. The circumcision of the heart, not the foreskin, which has always been the case.
“Repent and be baptized for the remission of sins” would be making your point for you...
And it's just as useless for attaining salvation as the old circumcision.
Romans 2:25-29 25For circumcision indeed is of value if you obey the law, but if you break the law, your circumcision becomes uncircumcision. 26So, if a man who is uncircumcised keeps the precepts of the law, will not his uncircumcision be regarded as circumcision? 27Then he who is physically uncircumcised but keeps the law will condemn you who have the written code and circumcision but break the law. 28For no one is a Jew who is merely one outwardly, nor is circumcision outward and physical. 29But a Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter. His praise is not from man but from God.
Romans 4:1-12 1What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh? 2For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3For what does the Scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness." 4Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. 5And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness, 6just as David also speaks of the blessing of the one to whom God counts righteousness apart from works: 7 "Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven, and whose sins are covered; 8blessed is the man against whom the Lord will not count his sin."
9Is this blessing then only for the circumcised, or also for the uncircumcised? We say that faith was counted to Abraham as righteousness. 10How then was it counted to him? Was it before or after he had been circumcised? It was not after, but before he was circumcised. 11 He received the sign of circumcision as a seal of the righteousness that he had by faith while he was still uncircumcised. The purpose was to make him the father of all who believe without being circumcised, so that righteousness would be counted to them as well, 12and to make him the father of the circumcised who are not merely circumcised but who also walk in the footsteps of the faith that our father Abraham had before he was circumcised.
Galatians 5:1-6 1For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery. 2Look: I, Paul, say to you that if you accept circumcision, Christ will be of no advantage to you. 3I testify again to every man who accepts circumcision that he is obligated to keep the whole law. 4You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace. 5For through the Spirit, by faith, we ourselves eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness. 6For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but only faith working through love.
Clarification, at least as regards Spain. (Full disclosure, apparently there was a Dominican Inquisitor in France who was a real bad guy.)
The deal is “Catholic Spain” finally beats the Muslims. Though Jews had to pay the jizaya and labored under other impediments, they got on okay with the Muslims (as well as at least SOME Catholics.
But the victory after centuries of conflict was not all that secure. Fear (whether justified or not) of spies and of divided loyalties was great. Surely prejudice played a role, but, as is often so, unreasoned prejudice had a few facts around which to crystallize.
Hence the expulsion of the Jews. Maybe some clergy supported this, but it’s not really the Church’s department.
Except that expulsions are unjust — and expensive, ruinous, for the expellees. So there were many false conversions.
Now THAT’s the Church’s business. So if a family is rumored to be keeping Kosher yet has been baptized, there’s an issue.
I baptized a guy once who later told me that he came to me to get baptized so that he could get close (if you know what I mean) to some dame. I was “locum tenens” for a pastor on Sabbatical. His congregation had some real on fire Christians, and they pretty much love bombed him. So his cynical resistance was overcome, and his tears at his baptism were, well wonderful.
But this is about how even today people will fake it.
Anyway, the idea of perjured communicants was horrifying to he Church, and frightening to the King.
So if you put your head where their heads were, you can understand, a little, where they were coming from.
If God is for us, who can possibly be against us. Who can possibly destroy us. We are hid with Christ in God. Fantastic!
You must have been listening to a crackpot fake doctor who used to rant about this on these threads. I thought this was put to bed along time ago.
“Through Him, with Him, and in Him, in the unity of the Holy Spirit, all honor and glory is yours, Almighty Father, forever and ever.” Echoing Romans 11:36 this is more than a simple doxology. With these words, the Priest humbly prepares to pronounce the Words of Institution, in persona Christi, clearly stating that it is Christ, not he the priest, presiding over the miracle of the Eucharist.
For the one moment that the Eucharist is consecrated and transubstantiated the priest succeeds in becoming a perfect Imitation of Christ.
Remember, the call to be transformed and imitate Jesus is not reserved only to priests. We are all called in Scripture to imitate Christ. It is God’s desire that each of us “be conformed to the likeness of his Son” (Romans 8:29). Whenever a Christian sacrifices out of love for another, he is acting “in persona Christi”, in the person of Christ, or as an “alter Christus”. Scriptural commands are plentiful; (Matthew 16:24; Luke 6:40; 1 John 2:6; John 13:15; 1 Corinthians 11:1; 2 Corinthians 3:18, Ephesians 4:13, Galatians 4:19 and 1 Peter 2:21,22.) Yet some who claim that all of the revealed Word of God is contained in Scripture ignore and ridicule and insult Catholic priests for heeding this call.
Contrary to the disinformation, misinformation and outright lies presented like some kind of touchdown celebration on these threads, the priest does not become “another Christ”. Those assertions are either ignorant or malicious. Nowhere does the Church use the term “Alter Jesu” as some suggest or imply.
As we observe too frequentlt, rhe literal translation of Catholic dogma, written in Vulgate Latin, into modern English is a fool’s errand and there is no shortage of fools prowling the Religion Forum.
For those with no formal education in Catholic dogma, doctrine and history and no fluency in Latin non-eisegesistic translation is an impossible task. Their “Googlesterium” is at best a joke and too often it is a tool of evil and of those intent on doing evil. The attempts posted repeatedly in the Religion Forum are embarrassingly and painfully flawed. With so much disinformation, misinformation and outright lies it is important that the truth be told.
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