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My Faith: Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN), from Catholic to Muslim
CNN ^ | 9/1/11 | Chris Welch

Posted on 09/02/2011 9:07:47 AM PDT by marshmallow

Minneapolis, Minnesota (CNN) –Prior to 2006, few people even knew that then-Minnesota state legislator Keith Ellison was a Muslim. Because of his English name, he said, no one thought to ask.

But five years ago, when he ran for a seat in the United States House of Representatives - a race he would go on to win - word of his religious affiliation began to spread.

“When I started running for Congress it actually took me by surprise that so many people were fascinated with me being the first Muslim in Congress,” said Ellison, a Democrat now serving his third term in the House.

“But someone said to me, ‘Look Keith, think of a person of Japanese origin running for Congress six years after Pearl Harbor–this might be a news story.’”

Though Ellison's status as the first Muslim elected to Congress is widely known, fewer are aware that he was born into a Catholic family in Detroit and was brought up attending Catholic schools.

But he said he was never comfortable with that faith.

“I just felt it was ritual and dogma,” Ellison said. “Of course, that’s not the reality of Catholicism, but it’s the reality I lived. So I just kind of lost interest and stopped going to Mass unless I was required to.”

It wasn’t until he was a student at Wayne State University in Detroit when Ellison began, “looking for other things.”

(Excerpt) Read more at religion.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Islam; Theology
KEYWORDS: blackmuslims; islam; keithellison; muslim
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To: Natural Law

My no response policy hasn’t changed.


2,781 posted on 09/11/2011 10:09:08 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Well said and well written. Again, thanks.


2,782 posted on 09/11/2011 10:23:22 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: boatbums
Who do you think wrote the books of the New Testament?

Does it matter? Does it matter who wrote Hebrews? It has not mattered thus far. What matters is that the Church has declared it to be Canon.

Well, the Church did much more than declare Hebrews as part of the New Testament canon. At the Council of Trent, they said this:

I know what they said; and at the time to the best of their knowledge, they attributed Hebrews to Paul. It is to the credit of the Church that they acknowledge that Pauline authorship is rather farfetched. The Church knows better today. How about you?

2,783 posted on 09/11/2011 10:23:24 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: CynicalBear
You are quite welcome, dear brother in Christ!
2,784 posted on 09/11/2011 10:24:31 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Judith Anne
We are in the Dispensation of the Grace of God. You will find it from Romans through Philemon. This dispensation was given to Paul from direct revelations from the Risen Christ. Beginning in Acts, Chapter 9.

Hebrews through Revelation is for the Dispensation of the Millenial Kingdom. It is a culmination of the Dispensation of the Law. It is the final fulfillment of prophecy given to Israel. It was given to those going through the tribulation and Christ's returning to Earth to set up His Kingdom.

BTW: Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are part of the Dispensation of the Law. They are a fulfillment of prophecy concerning a Nation, Israel.

The WHOLE BIBLE is for our understanding. But there are certain parts that in certain ages, God revealed in His plan for mankind. Dispensations.

2,785 posted on 09/11/2011 10:24:56 AM PDT by smvoice (The Cross was NOT God's Plan B.)
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To: Iscool
am not the one claiming to be, or supplant, Jesus Christ in arranging my own salvation.

Well sure you are...You've admitted many times that you must wait til it's all over to find out if you were good enough for salvation...

Once again, your post is full of fail. I await the Judge's decision. I don't claim to make it for Him. You have, many times.

2,786 posted on 09/11/2011 10:26:23 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: count-your-change
"My no response policy hasn’t changed."

And yet you responded. Perhaps your skin is too thin for open forums or you don't understand the concept of an "open" forum. I tend to believe that the doubts to your orthodoxy resulting from my posts is too uncomfortable. Either way, I am going to continue to comment on any posts in these open forum threads I feel compelled to. Forum guidelines require me to ping you when you are involved. If you do not like that take it up with the moderator.

2,787 posted on 09/11/2011 10:26:45 AM PDT by Natural Law (For God so loved the world He did not send a book.)
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To: Natural Law

My no response TO YOU hasn’t changed.


2,788 posted on 09/11/2011 10:30:17 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: CynicalBear
I’m just going to ignore your word semantics.

Which ones would that be? That we Catholics acknowledge Jesus as Lord God Almighty? That only He Judges and that you don't get to proclaim your own salvation before He does?

So you think your salvation depends on your actions? Oh my! The statement from scripture that even our best is still as filthy rags to God must give you nightmares. If it doesn’t it should.

My salvation depends on the Lord God Almighty. You might have a strange attraction to menstrual pads, but we have a strange attraction to God. We must accept His offer, but it is only His offer that matters.

Continue on with your fixation of menstrual blood.

2,789 posted on 09/11/2011 10:31:32 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: smvoice
"The WHOLE BIBLE is for our understanding. But there are certain parts that in certain ages, God revealed in His plan for mankind. Dispensations."

And yet you and the other anti-Catholics who frequent these threads criticize Catholics for acknowledging a hierarchy of Scripture and for having the audacity to claim that Christ, not Paul, is at the apex of that hierarchy.

2,790 posted on 09/11/2011 10:31:52 AM PDT by Natural Law (For God so loved the world He did not send a book.)
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To: CynicalBear
It’s not there Mark. If it were the RCC would have it all over their sites.

I'm not sure what Royal Crown Cola has to do with the blessed Virgin Mary.

2,791 posted on 09/11/2011 10:33:46 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: smvoice; Judith Anne
>> Please show me in Scripture where Paul is the author of Hebrews. Thank you.<<

Hope you don’t mind me stepping in here to help Judith Anne out.

Although there is a small group who think there may be another author it is pretty commonly accepted that Paul wrote Hebrews. They site writing style and other things but there is only one scriptural reference to support that he “probably” wrote Hebrews. It’s 2 Peter 3:15 where Peter references Paul writing to the Hebrews.

2 Peter 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

2,792 posted on 09/11/2011 10:37:54 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: boatbums
Honestly? How soon they forget! We discussed this topic very recently, do you not remember? You were given explanations and even a few links that explain in even more detail about the "supposed" errors in the Bible. AND, you claim you believe what your Magesterium says regarding the inspiration by God, the infallible nature and the reliability of the Scriptures. Is this a case of "flip-flopitis"?

Yes, and the links came down to this: the authors admitted that they had no clue. I posted the results.

2,793 posted on 09/11/2011 10:45:48 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: smvoice
BTW: Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are part of the Dispensation of the Law. They are a fulfillment of prophecy concerning a Nation, Israel.

As my mother was a Jew, and thereby so am I, I agree.

The WHOLE BIBLE is for our understanding. But there are certain parts that in certain ages, God revealed in His plan for mankind. Dispensations.

Because of the aforementioned accident of birth, I had a particular interest in Hebrews. I found it to be straightforward, with no need to shove it off on another age. That's very Catholic of you, frankly. I thought that the Bible was self-explanatory, iron-sharpens-iron kind of thing. I thought that, according to protestants, picking out certain verses and ascribing a different audience requiring a different interpretation was something that the Catholic Church's teaching authority was guilty of, to Catholics' spiritual detriment.

Perhaps you can explain, then, how Paul's commandments (Can we really call them anything else) do not pertain to protestants of this age, particularly since they echo Christ's teaching in the synoptic Gospels?

2,794 posted on 09/11/2011 10:48:05 AM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: MarkBsnr; boatbums
>>The Christian Think Tank that you think is an authority is as much of a sham as any other Protestant entity.<<

Really Mark? You assert that all Protestant entities are a sham? Do you want to have a discussion of the scripture that the RCC uses to support the veneration of Mary and the bodily assumption of Mary? Shall we look at Revelation 12 which the RCC uses as a foundation for the belief about Mary? I’m ready but was going to wait until a later time where it may be more appropriate.

2,795 posted on 09/11/2011 10:50:48 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: Natural Law
Because you and other Catholics who frequent these threads seem to be getting your religion from the Dispensation of the Law, which included Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. You seem to think that is where your "maybe I'll someday be saved" Scriptures are. We are living not in the Dispensation of the Law age, we are living in the Dispensation of the Grace of God age. That is where you will find the gospel of your salvation.

"Time Past"..."But Now"...."Ages to Come". Ephesians, Chapter 2. This is what rightly dividing the Bible (2 Tim. 2:15) means, in its simplest form.

If you believe your salvation can be found in M,M,L,orJ, you are living in "Time Past", which is why the Bible seems so confusing to you, and Paul is loved/hated by the RCC. You are on the other side of the Cross. And will never have eternal security.

"But Now" is where we are today. This is God's personal word to those living NOW. The whole Bible is for our understanding, but we don't read Lev. 4:27,28 and offer animal sacrifices when we sin. We don't open the Bible to Lev. 11:7,8 and refuse to eat ham. We don't read the Book of Mark, come across Mark 16:18 and open a bottle of poison, thinking everything's ok. We don't read Luke 12:33 and Acts 2:44,45 and sell everything we own and have one common treasury (Otherwise, the Vatican would have ONE HUGE garage sale).

It's all for our understanding, the way God has managed mankind throughout history. But we search the Scriptures to find how God is managing (dispensing) His word to us today.

Find out where you are in God's word, and become an effective workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2 Tim. 2:15.

2,796 posted on 09/11/2011 10:53:57 AM PDT by smvoice (The Cross was NOT God's Plan B.)
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To: Judith Anne
"Perhaps you can explain, then, how Paul's commandments (Can we really call them anything else) do not pertain to protestants of this age, particularly since they echo Christ's teaching in the synoptic Gospels?"

I'll take Cafeteria Protestants for $400, Alex.

2,797 posted on 09/11/2011 10:55:18 AM PDT by Natural Law (For God so loved the world He did not send a book.)
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To: smvoice
We are living not in the Dispensation of the Law age, we are living in the Dispensation of the Grace of God age.

According to whom? What authority defines the ages for you?

2,798 posted on 09/11/2011 10:55:49 AM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne

What the Catholic Church is guilty of is NOT following Scripture, but holding tradition and doctrines of men as equally authoritative to God’s word. If it were only a matter of comparing Scripture with Scripture, that could be solved easily. It’s when other sources are brought in, give their opinions, are declared infallible and suddenly those opinions are what a Church follows, that problems begin.


2,799 posted on 09/11/2011 10:59:27 AM PDT by smvoice (The Cross was NOT God's Plan B.)
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To: Judith Anne

I’m not sure what you mean by “Paul’s commandments”. Can you provide some Scripture so I’ll understand what you mean? Thanks


2,800 posted on 09/11/2011 11:02:51 AM PDT by smvoice (The Cross was NOT God's Plan B.)
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