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My Faith: Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN), from Catholic to Muslim
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| 9/1/11
| Chris Welch
Posted on 09/02/2011 9:07:47 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: boatbums
If yo’ mama thinks that her suffering earns her access to heaven, that’s terrible, IMHO.
If she views it as something which, combined with — oh, how can I express this — a continuous reaching for the hand of IHS will — struggling for words here — be like swimming toward the middle of Ezekiel’s river which flows from the temple and spreads life all around ... the middle where the flow is deepest and strongest, then she may well have a point.
Though our emotions and moods depend on what we eat and do and on our internal chemistry, if repentance and humility are not accompanied with confidence and joy, even sometimes a grim merriment, then IMHO we’re doing it wrong.
For that there is only one remedy: to cast oneself before the throne of mercy.
How’s that for an answer? Is it okay?
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posted on
09/09/2011 4:20:20 AM PDT
by
Mad Dawg
(In my Father's trailer park are many double-wides. (apologies to Iscool))
To: Not gonna take it anymore
God called him? I dont think so. There is no love there, I see only a person who even when he has been told what Catholics really believe still has his Ishtar nastiness to post. That isnt a watchman role, that is a reader of those disgusting comic books role You're just saying that because it's true.
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posted on
09/09/2011 4:22:47 AM PDT
by
MarkBsnr
(I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
To: UriÂ’el-2012
Vincible ignorance !!! Then stop practicing it in defiance of Scripture. It's not too late to abandon pride and give yourself to God.
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posted on
09/09/2011 4:26:31 AM PDT
by
MarkBsnr
(I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
To: Cronos
Are you trying to rehabilitate the thoroughly discredited Apocrypha? This should make for an interesting chat.
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posted on
09/09/2011 4:26:36 AM PDT
by
count-your-change
(You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
To: CynicalBear; Natural Law
>>Actually that was Calvin who said; "Build a man a fire and you warm him for a day, but light a man on fire an you warm him for the rest of his life."<< Yep, I cant understand why anyone would hold that scum bag up as someone to follow. I suppose he learned that during his days as a Catholic.
Actually it is the antiCatholics that do it. How would Calvin learn after he died how to hold Calvin up as someone to follow. Your diction, your logic and your theology are equally dismal.
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posted on
09/09/2011 4:29:58 AM PDT
by
MarkBsnr
(I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
To: Natural Law; UriÂ’el-2012
Negatory. I've been there. It's about just under 200 km and about 3 1/2 hours from Istanbul by car. Even so, how many days journey do you think 50 miles or 120 miles was in the 4th century?
When you are one of these spacemen who consort with space aliens, you just beam there right out of Star Trek. Who cares, anyway, when you believe that the world will end in 2012?
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posted on
09/09/2011 4:32:27 AM PDT
by
MarkBsnr
(I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
To: boatbums
And, I agree with you. It was another that chose to glom unto what a "generation" really was rather than amend the mistaken comment. I guess it didn't jibe with the party line to have to admit the truth. More idiocy. I explained that generation in the context (as in generation to generation) that I wrote it meant that a whole new generation had been born and that the Church realized that things had better be written down for future posterity since Christ had not come back and might not for some time.
I had expected better of you.
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posted on
09/09/2011 4:39:15 AM PDT
by
MarkBsnr
(I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
To: Quix
YOU CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS, FOLKS. Christians have it one way. Space alien worshippers have it another.
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posted on
09/09/2011 4:40:27 AM PDT
by
MarkBsnr
(I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
To: Cronos; OLD REGGIE
But there are all kinds of homosexual advocating brochures available along with every possible kind of anti-American literature you could think of.And nobody could possibly know this except for you. Congrats.
To: Quix
Mary is referred to frequently as Ishtar by some of the cretins who prowl these threads pretending to be Christian GIVEN that I'm the ONLY one who does that, thanks for calling me a cretin. It only adds to my Heavenly rewards.
I think that calling Mary Ishtar will provide all kinds of Heavenly Judgements.
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posted on
09/09/2011 4:41:46 AM PDT
by
MarkBsnr
(I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
To: smvoice
***
but trying to get the core truth is sometimes difficult. :)
***
Yeah. Maybe. A little. :-)
I like this post. I'm going to think about it today.
Since I first stumbled across this mumble mumble years ago (1973, actually — is that scary or what?) I have thought that it was a place where Paul was reaching to express something beyond expression. It is just WRONG to say that anything is “behind” or “lacking” in the perfect suffering of our perfect Lord. Yet he says it.
My rule is to appreciate, to dwell in, such seeming paradoxes, to eschew “explaining away” baffling expressions. I try instead to “abide” with them, to let them “work” as though I were kneaded dough and they were yeast.
(You know, if you want the gluten to come up, there's no way around it but to knead for a quarter of an hour or so. Then there's not much one can do to speed the rising either. You just have to let things work. For it is God that worketh in the dough, both to will and to do for His pleaure and our rising.)
Anyway, thanks. Good eats! Chewy!
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posted on
09/09/2011 4:43:06 AM PDT
by
Mad Dawg
(In my Father's trailer park are many double-wides. (apologies to Iscool))
To: CynicalBear
How about we just go to scripture. That's not fair... :)
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posted on
09/09/2011 4:44:41 AM PDT
by
Iscool
(You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
To: Quix
BTW, Jesus has made it abundantly clear the last 3 months that He lovingly knows me quite well.
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posted on
09/09/2011 4:46:11 AM PDT
by
MarkBsnr
(I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
To: boatbums
One thought: My beloved atheist Episcopal friend (! No. Really. Stop laughing!) said to me that “you Catholics) are all about the crucifixion, while we Episcopals are about resurrection.
I snippily replied, “If you don’t see how, at this present time, the two are identical, you understand neither.”
Put THAT in your incense burner and smoke it!
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posted on
09/09/2011 4:49:35 AM PDT
by
Mad Dawg
(In my Father's trailer park are many double-wides. (apologies to Iscool))
To: MarkBsnr
From generation to generation is from father to son. You are wrong about this just as much as you are wrong about the Faith. Show it to me from the scriptures...I've got the weekend off...Is that enough time for you to find it???
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posted on
09/09/2011 4:55:59 AM PDT
by
Iscool
(You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
To: count-your-change
Firstly, it's not discredited. Secondly, this was in all Bibles including the first Luther Bible and KJV.
Which translation of the Bible do you use?
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posted on
09/09/2011 4:57:52 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(www.forfiter.com)
To: Jvette; Iscool
Play by your own rules, prove it. The Arians on this forum are notoriously shy when it comes to proof.
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posted on
09/09/2011 4:58:27 AM PDT
by
MarkBsnr
(I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
To: Not gonna take it anymore; Quix
I remember well how nearly all things Catholic, except Augustine, Aquinas, Dante, Eckhart, and Hopkins, gave me the creeps. Even after I swam the Tiber ... I was in a traditional style church and saw the tawdry statuary and suddenly thought, “WHAT am I doing here?”
Many “cradle Catholics” don’t appreciate this tool of the enemy’s. It’s powerful. Unreasoning revulsion sure delayed my entry, while great saints still beckoned and, I have to think, prayed on my behalf.
Enough chatter. Prayers!
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posted on
09/09/2011 4:58:31 AM PDT
by
Mad Dawg
(In my Father's trailer park are many double-wides. (apologies to Iscool))
To: Invincibly Ignorant
You’re welcome to go to any UU meeting if you want...
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posted on
09/09/2011 4:59:01 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(www.forfiter.com)
To: smvoice
I dont think it will ever be found. First of all, there are no red letter words to search for. Secondly, its so far from the 4 Gospels and Acts 1 and 2 that it might get boring. You know, no pictures or recipes to cook in honor of searching the Scriptures. I wonder if there is a saint for that? I assume that there is a point to this post.
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posted on
09/09/2011 5:00:24 AM PDT
by
MarkBsnr
(I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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