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My Faith: Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN), from Catholic to Muslim
CNN ^ | 9/1/11 | Chris Welch

Posted on 09/02/2011 9:07:47 AM PDT by marshmallow

Minneapolis, Minnesota (CNN) –Prior to 2006, few people even knew that then-Minnesota state legislator Keith Ellison was a Muslim. Because of his English name, he said, no one thought to ask.

But five years ago, when he ran for a seat in the United States House of Representatives - a race he would go on to win - word of his religious affiliation began to spread.

“When I started running for Congress it actually took me by surprise that so many people were fascinated with me being the first Muslim in Congress,” said Ellison, a Democrat now serving his third term in the House.

“But someone said to me, ‘Look Keith, think of a person of Japanese origin running for Congress six years after Pearl Harbor–this might be a news story.’”

Though Ellison's status as the first Muslim elected to Congress is widely known, fewer are aware that he was born into a Catholic family in Detroit and was brought up attending Catholic schools.

But he said he was never comfortable with that faith.

“I just felt it was ritual and dogma,” Ellison said. “Of course, that’s not the reality of Catholicism, but it’s the reality I lived. So I just kind of lost interest and stopped going to Mass unless I was required to.”

It wasn’t until he was a student at Wayne State University in Detroit when Ellison began, “looking for other things.”

(Excerpt) Read more at religion.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Islam; Theology
KEYWORDS: blackmuslims; islam; keithellison; muslim
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To: Lera
Needs to be repeated

Sure. If you repeat a Protestant lie often enough, the comic book readers will believe it. Makes sense to me.

1,881 posted on 09/08/2011 4:40:01 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move m to do so.)
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To: smvoice
If only God would grant Paul one night on this forum. Just one. There would be people sauntering in, peacock feathers in full array, awaiting the big moment when Paul is impressed. Those would be the same people who would be limping out of here, feathers between their legs, pretending to be cool, calm and collected even as their knees buckled under the nervous ticks.

Are you giving up?

1,882 posted on 09/08/2011 4:41:06 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move m to do so.)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
I love how they have to invent what Catholics “believe,” or else they’d have nothing to rally against - shows how scummy some pretend-Christians can be

When the entire basis of your existence is anti-, then it's all you have. We cannot expect any more from them, except the cream who rise to the surface and in spite of themselves cross the Tiber, or head East. We have some notable converts in this crowd who surpass me in their understanding of the Faith.

1,883 posted on 09/08/2011 4:44:31 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move m to do so.)
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To: presently no screen name
I'm BLESSED.

An interesting term for it.

1,884 posted on 09/08/2011 4:54:45 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move m to do so.)
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To: count-your-change
My comment was on the picture.....only the picture, I’m an onlooker in this eye gouging contest.

But, thanks for the lead...

1,885 posted on 09/08/2011 4:56:05 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move m to do so.)
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To: boatbums

For me it does. Thank you.


1,886 posted on 09/08/2011 4:57:27 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move m to do so.)
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To: boatbums
Oh, dear, did you just say one thing and then contradict yourself in the very next post?

Nope. Same old 2000 year old message. The sacrifice of Christ is sufficient for all men. Yet some men will reject that offer of salvation. No contradiction.

1,887 posted on 09/08/2011 4:59:46 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move m to do so.)
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To: boatbums; Quix
So, you don't have a lot of legroom mocking Quix's experiences. Has this just become a spontaneous reaction to anything he says now?

As it turns out, it wasn't Quix's experience. It was a claim to have been at an event that was lifted from an Internet fairy story. Lying for the Lord, the Mormons call it. What would you call it?

1,888 posted on 09/08/2011 5:04:00 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move m to do so.)
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To: Mad Dawg
I'm also thinking of the gargoyles on the outside of the cathedral. They're on the outside.

They certainly are in the theological sense. They post here every day.

1,889 posted on 09/08/2011 5:05:45 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move m to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
Like it or lump it, your Judgement will consist of, amongst other things, whether you refused the Faith or not after having been exposed to it

You can take it to the bank that I reject your Catholic faith...And God tells you in Revelation 17 how he's going to reject your faith...

You can boast about your pagan faith all day long but in the end, if you do not have the Spirit within you that raised Jesus from the dead, you are none of his...Cut and dried...

And that fire you seem to be looking forward to after you die will not be some phoney purgatory...That fire emanates from hell...

You need to dump that religion (faith) and turn to Jesus...Ask him to save you and trust in Him, and only Him...

1,890 posted on 09/08/2011 5:22:21 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: MarkBsnr; Quix

“...it’s false but true on principle.”

They were ~mistaken~.

http://www.rickross.com/reference/tv_preachers/tv_preachers20.html

“A chastened Willard Thiessen, host of a daily religion program on Winnipeg television, admitted yesterday he was wrong in telling his tele-flock that God had inexplicably planted a gold tooth in his mouth.

It turned out the gold tooth had been implanted by his brother Elmer, a dentist in British Columbia.

“I’m embarrassed to tears about this,” said Mr. Thiessen, president of Trinity Television. “I thought I had a miracle”

And, all that glitters is not gold!

“A Brazilian evangelist at the center of the “gold dust” phenomenon being reported at charismatic churches across the United States and Europe says she is unfazed by scientific reports suggesting that all that glitters is not what it seems.

Two independent tests on samples of the gold-colored dust that falls from Silvania Machado’s head during services have found the substance to be more like plastic glitter, with no gold content.

But Machado, who attributes the manifestation to her divine healing from cancer, is untroubled by the conclusions of the analyses carried out on behalf of “Charisma” magazine. “To me, it doesn’t matter what it is as long as it’s from God”, she said”

It’s not from God, Lady!!! It’ straight from the pit.

http://www.apologeticsindex.org/d04.html


1,891 posted on 09/08/2011 5:24:05 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: MarkBsnr
Follow the words as written. A generation consisted of about 20 years in NT times. I'm sorry if it's simple.

Geeeeeeeeeeeeezzzz...Where do you come up with this stuff???

1,892 posted on 09/08/2011 5:25:30 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: smvoice
Oh dear. You’ve been officially pigeon-holed into an “ism” or an “ist” or and “ician”. Which means you refused to bow down to the red pradas. Congratualtions, if Rome calls you a heretic, it means they reject the plain teachings of those who understand that grace is free and the finished work of Christ is sufficient. Welcome to the world of following Paul as he followed Christ by direct revelations of the risen Christ, for a pattern to them who would hereafter believe on Christ Jesus to life everlasting.

Exactly...If a Catholic calls me a heretic, it's a feather in my hat...

1,893 posted on 09/08/2011 5:29:08 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: MarkBsnr
Let's see. Jesus Ascended ca: AD 33. Paul's first Epistles came out ca: AD 55. Do you think that Paul was a really slow writer?

When did Paul start preaching??? Minus the 3 years he spent in the presence of the 'risen' Jesus Christ...

1,894 posted on 09/08/2011 5:32:46 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: MarkBsnr
My friend, remember that Iscool was the one who told us that he doesn't believe what he believes. I guess anything goes in that case...

I see you had another busy night last night...Was that at home or at your religious gathering???

1,895 posted on 09/08/2011 5:38:48 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: aruanan
Or coming in a secret rapture visible only to believers

Nope...I said showing up on earth...We during the Rapture are heading up, well above the earth to meet Jesus...

1,896 posted on 09/08/2011 5:41:52 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: Natural Law
Reading minds and attributing motives are forms of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

1,897 posted on 09/08/2011 5:51:04 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Mad Dawg
When you can give a plausible account of “substance” and “sacramental presence” I’ll pick up that glove. But not until then.

Naw...Those are unbiblical Catholic terms created by your religion...There's no such thing as sacramental presence in the scriptures...Jesus did not say that you will not see Me again until I show up at the 2nd Coming EXCEPT FOR my sacramental presence...

You guys can get away with that with the lay people in your religion...They'll believe anything you tell them...But it doesn't wash with bible believers...

1,898 posted on 09/08/2011 5:52:32 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: Iscool

As long as you admit that you don’t understand your ownquestion and wouldn’t understand the answer (and don’t want to), I’m good with that.

“Blessed are those who have not seen yet believe.” That describes the faithful in adoration.


1,899 posted on 09/08/2011 5:59:39 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (In my Father's trailer park are many double-wides. (apologies to Iscool))
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To: MarkBsnr
Arians were excommunicated at the Council of Nicea in 325 (do you guys never learn) which is located in Turkey.

I don't have enough interest in your council of Nicea to ever remember where it was...But I'll bet if one could talk to the real Christians in that day, it was the council at Nicea that was excommunicated by the Christians...

1,900 posted on 09/08/2011 6:03:59 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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