My Faith: Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN), from Catholic to Muslim

CNN ^ | 9/1/11 | Chris Welch

[marshmallow]

Minneapolis, Minnesota (CNN) –Prior to 2006, few people even knew that then-Minnesota state legislator Keith Ellison was a Muslim. Because of his English name, he said, no one thought to ask.

But five years ago, when he ran for a seat in the United States House of Representatives - a race he would go on to win - word of his religious affiliation began to spread.

“When I started running for Congress it actually took me by surprise that so many people were fascinated with me being the first Muslim in Congress,” said Ellison, a Democrat now serving his third term in the House.

“But someone said to me, ‘Look Keith, think of a person of Japanese origin running for Congress six years after Pearl Harbor–this might be a news story.’”

Though Ellison's status as the first Muslim elected to Congress is widely known, fewer are aware that he was born into a Catholic family in Detroit and was brought up attending Catholic schools.

But he said he was never comfortable with that faith.

“I just felt it was ritual and dogma,” Ellison said. “Of course, that’s not the reality of Catholicism, but it’s the reality I lived. So I just kind of lost interest and stopped going to Mass unless I was required to.”

It wasn’t until he was a student at Wayne State University in Detroit when Ellison began, “looking for other things.”

[Lera]

:)

[MarkBsnr]

The entire Christian world condemned you as nonChristian.

The entire Christian world, meaning Rome?

Have you not been following? Are the words polysyllabic and difficult to follow? Arians were excommunicated at the Council of Nicea in 325 (do you guys never learn) which is located in Turkey. I realize that with an American public school education you were never taught things like geography, which means that I cannot expect you to understand the distance from Rome to Constantinople. You were also never taught history, which would include the time required to journey from Rome to Constantinople.

Which ribbon would you then claim? First in ignorance?

If Rome rejects something, you can be sure there is something there to be studied and compared Scripture with Scripture.

The very invoking of "Rome" means that we have failed to get you to understand the Church or the Christian Faith at all. And for that I am sure that I will be Judged in my efforts.

[Lera]

Thanks for posting the scripture

[MarkBsnr]

20 years you say!!! How many generations was there between Adam and Jesus?

I'm sure that you'll fill me in. If you go with a 20 year generational time span given your predilections, does that mean that the Earth really is really, really young? It shows how absurd your claims are, doesn't it? If two people are born in the same year, and have children at 20, and one dies at 30 and the other dies at 70, what is the length of that generation under your definition?

[CynicalBear]

And there are some who get really angry if cornered not being able to justify a doctrine from scripture.

[CynicalBear]

Answer my question Mark. How many generations between Adam and Jesus? I’m not falling for your deflections any more.

[MarkBsnr]

Your picture brings to mind the word ‘emetic’ for some reason. Could it be medicinal alcohol?

Good question. I wonder how many of these people need drying out, a shrink, or simply a job.

[bronx2]

It appears you might be painting with a very myopic narrow brush not to be confused with the narrow path to salvation. The dispensational/rapture types, championing the cause of Israel, exhibit much imagination but no basis in reality. They merely exhibit prideful arrogance which leads to the wide smooth path of eternal destruction.

Thus, I am following the words of the Lord in Mt 25:40-42 and counsel the least of the Lord's brothers who have become merely cultural, bereft of the divine presence, and who are starving for and thirsting after the spiritual milieu.

We represent the Faithful Remnant who labor in the vineyard of the Lord seeking those who are desperate for spiritual nourishment

With the advent of the New Year and Day of Atonement it might bode well for a thorough examination of conscience to discern whether one is on the left side of the Lord or does ones name appear in the Book of Life?. Many posts indicate an orientation to the port side but only the Lord knows.

You need to read and understand Gal 3:28 and Col 3:11 wherein it is stated we are neither jew nor Greek. Playing this nonsensical Jesus was a jew card is akin to Red Sox fans claiming Ruth was once a pitcher for Boston. Live in the present and not looking for superiority from the past.

God Bless

[MarkBsnr]

"You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth. You shall not worship them or serve them..."Exodus 20:4,5. Seems pretty straightforward and simple. This commandment forbids the making of images for religious use. And it prohibits the worshipping of such. You don't worship them, you don't make them, you don't bow down to them.

Yes, the condemnation of idols. Very good. We agree. Now any likeness? We have and Jews do interpret that as the creation of likeness to represent a false god. If you interpret it literally, you must jettison all photographs, digital images, paintings whether life stills or landscapes, and sculptures of anything real. How are you adhering to that interpretation?

I thought so.

Oh, you have an objection? Well, do you have a cross anywhere in your personal life? You must jettison that as well since it was real thing.

And then comes the RCC with their new and improved interpretation of Exodus 20:4,5. [Catechism 2129-2132] First they make this 2nd Commandment part of the 1st Commandment. Which then forces them to divide Exodus 20:17 into two commandments, in order to have ten. No there is no elimination of Scripture going on. THere is simple a shuffling of commandments and squeezing one into another in order to deemmphasize the prohibition against the making of graven images. Such as STATUES.

I'll call up Washington right now and tell them that you said to destroy the statue of Lincoln:

Oh, My, God!!! They said TEMPLE!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! I'll also have to tell them that by the authority of smvoice, that anyone who looks on this statue and feels any emotion whatsoever worships satan and will go to hell. Right?

[Quix]

INEED.

THX THX.

Some folks seem to think all my posts of such ilk are

purely mockery and ridicule.

NOPE. NOT by a long shot.

Many of them . . . probably a majority

are the most potent way I know to state and describe the

OBSERVED TRUTH.

. . . particularly in ways congruent with the priorities and umph of Scriptures related to such topics and behaviors.

[Quix]

PRAISE GOD! PRAISE GOD!

THX THX.

AMEN!

[Quix]

AS you wish, Bro.

I’m just not convinced that any of the shades, levels, flavors of meaning are going to make it less a problem.

They will likely all result—as far as Proddys can observe—in behaviors and attitudes that elevate Mary unfittingly, in appropriately and outrageously into a ‘hypostatic union’ with the Godhead.

The nuances claimed for various terms don’t appear to moderate that a bit as far as many Proddys can observe.

Is that fair to say for most of us Proddys? I don’t want to speak unfittingly for even most of us.

[Quix]

Now now.

How dare you go plaguing the magicsterical with that thar Bible stuff.

/sar

[Quix]

As though Proddys haven't read similar assaults and worse from RC's for the whole of FR's existence.

The outrage seems to get most shrill when they feel their monopoly on fiercely emotional, strident pronouncements is slipping away.

We all know they love their !!!!CONTROL!!!! mechanisms passionately . . . perhaps even idolatrously.

And no, the "Vatican Ishtar-Mary Goddess cult" is the best, MOST ACCURATE TO REALITY description of what's OBSERVED that I can come up with. If I could come up with a better one, I'd use the better, MORE accurate one.

Theologically, I think the Vatican Ishtar-Mary Goddess cult is like the gal in blue below . . . they took a very wrong turn early on.

[smvoice]

It doesn't matter WHERE it was located. Yes, it was 1200 miles away from Rome. Emperor Constantine had invited FROM ROME 300 bishops to attend- all expenses paid. And giving the bishops their opening instructions. "The Gospel According to Rome". James G. McCarthy.

Who's zoomin who, Mark? So yes, it was Rome who was considered then and by some now, the entire Christian world that would have condemned others as nonChristian.

[Quix]

Some folks are

born

naturally gifted at an Olympic level.

[MarkBsnr]

Answer my question Mark. How many generations between Adam and Jesus? I’m not falling for your deflections any more.

If you say so.

I don't care to look it up just now. How about you fill me in.

[smvoice]

“Hail Lincoln, full of grace”. Yes, it really compares well...

[MarkBsnr]

It doesn't matter WHERE it was located. Yes, it was 1200 miles away from Rome. Emperor Constantine had invited FROM ROME 300 bishops to attend- all expenses paid. And giving the bishops their opening instructions. "The Gospel According to Rome". James G. McCarthy.

You people get funnier and funnier all the time. How many bishops from Rome were actually invited? Hint: it wasn't 300. Let's have the roster, please.

Who's zoomin who, Mark? So yes, it was Rome who was considered then and by some now, the entire Christian world that would have condemned others as nonChristian.

It's interesting to see that your current grasp of history approximately equals your grasp of Christian theology. How about you get back to me just how many bishops were invited from Rome?