Double predestination, also known as Calvinist Predestination, is the view that God predetermined those who would go to heaven, and who to hell, and that his decision will infallibly come to pass.
Yep, and I would pay for it in some way here on earth. There is a difference in the earthly realm and the spiritual realm. We do suffer for our sins here on earth but they have been forgiven in the Spiritual and we appear spotless before God because Jesus paid for our sins already.
Putting aside forgiveness for the moment: Are you saying you are responsible for your choices to sin? Do the predestined non-elect have the same ability to choose and responsibility for those choices?
In short, do both the elect and non-elect have the same capacity and ability to choose and therefore the same responsibility for their choices?
Now don’t go trying to combine the carnal and spiritual on me. In the spiritual realm our sins are forgiven as it concerns our salvation. That doesn’t mean that we just go on sinning. A true Christian who has accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior is a changed individual and has the “law” written in his heart. He/She now wants to please God and resists, as much as is possible while still in this earthly body, doing things that displease Him. We like Paul know that the things we want to do sometimes we don’t and the things we don’t want to do we still do on occasion. Those sins are also forgiven when done in a moment of weakness at least as our salvation is concerned.
In the earthly or carnal realm there may still be consequences to those “sins”. I believe, for instance, that if we steal something it will cost us seven times the cost of that item in this world. If we are careless and someone is hurt or dies we will be punished for that. >>Do the predestined non-elect have the same ability to choose and responsibility for those choices?<<
Predestined non-elect? Wouldn’t that be double predestination again? Yeah I know it’s a tough one to get our heads around. If one is predestined for salvation doesn’t that mean the other is predestined to damnation? I don’t know how to answer that other then to say that in my mind those who are chosen by God for salvation are predestined to salvation and the others are simply left in there fallen state. As to the same ability to choose, it would seem to me that the unsaved don’t have the same “law” written on the heart so don’t see the spiritual implication of their actions whereas the saved person does. The only consequences they see are the carnal or earthly.
I hope that all made sense to you. I pray God will make the words mean what I intend. Bottom line is that Jesus made salvation pretty simple for us. The real gospel is “believe on the Lord Jesus and you will be saved – and your house”. There is no other way.