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To: Just mythoughts
IF God knew who will and will not make the 'right' decisions we would NOT have to go through this flesh age.

Sorry--I have to disagree here.

First, you are saying that God is NOT omniscient, which pretty well is part of the definition of God.

Second, we go through this age to show to ourselves that we will make the decisions we make--that hell (or heaven) is our own decision and we will not be able to argue against that decision.

God knows everything--past, present, and future--but we don't. That is what makes our decisions so important to Him--that we love Him of our own free will, without knowing the future, but having faith in Him.

302 posted on 08/30/2011 4:29:40 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce
Sorry--I have to disagree here. First, you are saying that God is NOT omniscient, which pretty well is part of the definition of God. Second, we go through this age to show to ourselves that we will make the decisions we make--that hell (or heaven) is our own decision and we will not be able to argue against that decision. God knows everything--past, present, and future--but we don't. That is what makes our decisions so important to Him--that we love Him of our own free will, without knowing the future, but having faith in Him.

Christ told Nicodemus in John 3 the first requirement for any to see the kingdom of God was to be born of woman into this flesh age. And then it is Written verse 16 For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life...

IF God already knows who will 'believe' then there was no point to this flesh age because He already knew who the rebels were before He destroyed that heaven/earth age that Peter describes in IIPeter 3. Those that did not follow the first rebel, the devil, were already justified, but they to in the perfection of perfect judgment were too required to pass through this flesh age.

Hebrews 2:14 Forasmuch as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, He also Himself likewise took part of the same; that through death He might destroy him that had the power of death, that is the devil:

When God created 'Lucifer' God loved him and appointed him to be -- Ezekiel 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou has walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

15 Thou was perfect in thy ways from the day that thou was created till iniquity was found in thee... Isaiah 14:12 gives another account of Lucifer and his falling, judgment and death sentence long before this flesh age.

Lucifer stopped loving our Father and decided he would be god. And in his rebellion he drew with him a third of the sons of God and then there was the katabolle, (translated in many places as 'foundation') which is described in Genesis 1:2 and by Jeremiah in 4:22-28 and Peter in IIPeter 3.

Solomon writes in Ecclesiastes 1:11 There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after....

So what is this that is NOT allowed to be remembered?

The WORD instructs us into what God said He did, is doing, and will do, and LOVE is demonstrated by taking the time to read with understanding what He said did happen, is happening and will happen. Christ said before one word of the so called NEW was ever put on animal skin or linen or plant fiber that He had already foretold US all things. Mark 13:23 And as Paul writes in ICorinthians 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them (got to start in verse 1 to find out who the them are) for ensamples: (examples) and they are written for our admonition (warning), upon whom the ends of the world (age) are come.

God in His Omniscience gave us His script so that those that LOVE Him will of their own, either as one of the elect or those that have 'free will' will demonstrate their LOVE by finding out what HE said was going to take place.

304 posted on 08/30/2011 7:39:23 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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