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To: mrreaganaut; reaganaut
I do agree fully on this point:

The mere fact of recognizing marriage does not corrode; the idea that government grants marriage does. What the government grants, it may modify or take away. Such is the state of marriage today.

Because we've given Government dominion over marriage, it can make of marriage what it wants. And right now, it's making it an abomination.

So, we have the option of trying to take Government back in the right direction, or simply taking marriage back. Of the two, I believe the latter is easier to do, as it uses Government's own avarice to keep the secular union under its grasp, and eliminates much of what it sees as "opposition" to its position.

We know the "Defense of Marriage" approaches are failing in State after State, and most likely will fail ultimately at the Federal level. The Christian foundation for such unions is no longer considered; it is only the secular, across-all-societal-groups that is of import to our Government. Thus we will never win the battle over keeping marriage pure when it is controlled by Government.

Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and unto God what is God's. Caesar can have his secular union; God gets marriage.

In short, bad drivers would not become better by banning the Department of Motor Vehicles.

This is an interesting analogy, but perhaps not fully on-point. I would say that bad drivers can still get their license, but only drivers that commit to good driving habits can get insurance (those who marry in a Church receive the sacrament of marriage).

Interesting thoughts, however!

49 posted on 07/30/2011 9:52:54 PM PDT by FromTheSidelines ("everything that deceives, also enchants" - Plato)
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To: FromTheSidelines
Because we've given Government dominion over marriage, it can make of marriage what it wants. And right now, it's making it an abomination.

And if it removes its recognition of marriage, it will be seen as having ABOLISHED marriage. Whatever is not permitted, is prohibited.

57 posted on 07/31/2011 7:29:42 AM PDT by mrreaganaut (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: FromTheSidelines

“Because we’ve given Government dominion over marriage, it can make of marriage what it wants. And right now, it’s making it an abomination.

Statists and homosexualists love that many are conditioned to think that marriage is just a collection of rights from the state, that can be granted, enforced, severed and resumed as long as the state gives its permission. They know if marriage is merely viewed as a contract that applies between any people the gov’t deems, then there is no real reason not to accept impossibilities like “gay marriage”.

Freegards


72 posted on 07/31/2011 3:35:58 PM PDT by Ransomed
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