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The Companionship of the Holy Ghost - Mormon
LDS.org ^ | August 1988 | Carlos E. Asay

Posted on 07/25/2011 10:34:37 AM PDT by greyfoxx39

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To: John McDonnell; Godzilla

Show evidence from NON BOM believing scholars. Because I can name a few atheist archeologists who recognize the validity of Biblical Archeology.

You really gonna trust a guy who claims he met one of the 3 Nephites?


201 posted on 07/27/2011 8:53:23 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut
Oh Brother...

Well if the existing science proves you wrong, make new science...

If we could just do that with Physics until we broke the speed of light...

“Ha, if we just take out all the relativity junk its easy...”

202 posted on 07/27/2011 8:54:16 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: John McDonnell
My authority for telling you that Jesus visited His "other sheep" in Mesoamerica are John 10:16. . .

Interesting, absolutely nothing about mesoamerica in the passage - but EVERYTHING about it being the Gentiles (vs 3-4).

and the findings of archaeology, which show that the only place in the New World where it could have been, considering the large population and advanced cilivization requirements of the Book of Mormon

The so-called findings of archaeology have already been destroyed John. The advanced civilization requirements - advanced metallurgical technology, chariots, metal swords and armor, horses, elephants, old world crop, cattle, etc. Remarkably NONE of these are present in ANY mesoamerican culture prior to the arrival of the spaniards.

There is also the witness of Neil Steede concerning the location of Hill Cumorah in Mexico, where numerous stone and obsidion weapons have been found with traces of blood embedded in them.

What an incredably stupid claim - now you are trying to tell us that the steel swords of the bom are really stone and obsidian weapons. Really, I didn't know obsidian rusts like metal John - and the blood (if there) is likely due to sacrifices - not a massive (and totally undocumented by the mayans) genocidal war.

Neil Steede

who pawned off the Ica Stone Collection as authentic - until his source started 'finding' etchings of ufo and aliens. Man, what is it about these independent mormon archaeologists always getting hooked up with ufos.

That is at least greater evidence than your paltry wishing that it was not so.

Published in the mexican equivalent of the national enquirer. Please upgrade your sources John - this isn't even a peer reviewed true scientific article. Please link me to the appropriate valid article - not faith promoting wishful thinking.

203 posted on 07/27/2011 8:54:44 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: reaganaut
You really gonna trust a guy who claims he met one of the 3 Nephites?

see my post 203 - the guy has a link to ufo's as well.

204 posted on 07/27/2011 8:56:34 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla

It just gets better and better...


205 posted on 07/27/2011 8:58:31 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: reaganaut

Plus he writes for Ancient American - junk archaeology rag iirc in addition to being referenced on ufo sites.


206 posted on 07/27/2011 9:00:13 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla

Oh lord, even I know that rag is bogus...

His UFO refrences bear more weight


207 posted on 07/27/2011 9:03:36 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Godzilla

Oh lord, even I know that rag is bogus...

His UFO refrences bear more weight


208 posted on 07/27/2011 9:03:36 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22

Transporters anyone?


209 posted on 07/27/2011 9:06:32 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: John McDonnell

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTtq62XQ4jw&feature=fvwrel

There are plenty of LdS and secular anthropologists, archaeologists and scholars in this video who disagree.


210 posted on 07/27/2011 9:12:22 PM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: Godzilla

One of my friends got me a copy of one of those as a joke.


211 posted on 07/27/2011 9:17:46 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: Normandy

I’m still waiting. Would you like to list a few things that are ‘good’ in Mormonism or would you rather I list what I saw as ‘good’ when I was LDS?

To: Normandy

No, nothing good in Mormonism.

But go ahead and list some specific things you think are ‘good’ about Mormonism. Or if you wish, I can list somethings I saw as ‘good’ when I was LDS.

Bottom line, it all gets down to motivation.

125 posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 9:41:41 PM by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - “I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see”)
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212 posted on 07/27/2011 9:22:14 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: John McDonnell
There is also the witness of Neil Steede concerning the location of Hill Cumorah in Mexico, where numerous stone and obsidion weapons have been found with traces of blood embedded in them.

 
 
 
Where's the STEEL??
 
    

213 posted on 07/28/2011 1:57:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: John McDonnell
They don’t find fine ceramic, but they find some that is crude and rustic, and we have taken some 40 pieces of hatchets that have tested positive for blood.
214 posted on 07/28/2011 2:00:14 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: John McDonnell
That is at least greater evidence than your paltry wishing that it was not so.

Chimera evidence of an authentic Calvinasaurus was unearthed last week in...

215 posted on 07/28/2011 2:01:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: reaganaut
I even have a textbook from the 1960’s on translating Mayan.

My wife and I honeymooned in MAYAN country and have an original piece of artwork with our names and wedding date WRITTEN in gylphs by a descendant of the Mayans!

216 posted on 07/28/2011 2:04:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: reaganaut

Was it Moe?


217 posted on 07/28/2011 2:05:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Godzilla
Interesting snippets from:    http://www.hillcumorahexpeditionteam.com/Neil05.html
 
 I could see the sphere of the Holy Spirit in which he was enveloped,
and as he approached me I became enveloped in the same sphere.
 
 
 
The Spirit has protected me from jaguar, giant centipede, fer-de-lance, and
others.
(like POSSUMS!)

218 posted on 07/28/2011 2:18:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Godzilla
 http://www.hillcumorahexpeditionteam.com/sitebuilder/images/Stone2-656x494.jpg
 
Close-up photograph of the largest portion of the Proclamation Tablet inscription
 
Notice the fine Mayan (Reformed, of course) glyphs that grace this valuable pice of historical data!
 
 
http://www.hillcumorahexpeditionteam.com/files/ProclamationTabletReport.pdf
 
 
Unnamed experts?
 
 



The following is from: http://www.mexconnect.com/articles/1241-did-you-know-mayan-pyramid-in-tabasco-mexico-has-possible-roman-links

Neil Steede, an archaeologist working on the site, studied almost 5,000 bricks, and photographed the inscriptions he found on about 1,500 of them. Most of the symbols or inscriptions have been interpreted as masons' signs. The really curious thing is that these marks turn out to be virtually identical to the masons' marks used by the Romans, half a world away. Steede was led to the astonishing conclusion that, "The illustrated bricks of Comalcalco are pieces to a grand puzzle, whose completed, final image may reveal a Roman Christian presence in the Americas a thousand years before the arrival of Columbus." 1

Masons' marks from Roman sites (left) and Comalcalco (right)
(Fell, 1990)

Masons' marks

The diagram compares some of the marks found at Comalcalco (on the right) with those found at Roman sites (on the left). The similarities are truly amazing! 2

Some researchers have also claimed that the dimensions of the bricks (more like flat tiles than conventional bricks) and some of the architectural details are more Roman than Mayan. Any Roman connection to the Americas would pre-date Columbus by a thousand years.

 

 

And OTOH we have Caractors: 


219 posted on 07/28/2011 2:45:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Godzilla
Man, what is it about these independent mormon archaeologists always getting hooked up with ufos.

How ELSE you gonna get to the area around Kolob?

In a boat with a HOLE in the bottom?

220 posted on 07/28/2011 2:47:36 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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