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To: marshmallow

I don’t need a layer of faulty human administration and human sinfulness between God my Savior and myself.

Jesus died on Calvary to do away with that type of religion (where God would transmit his messages to a priestly layer who would then talk to the people) and to usher in a dispensation where the Holy Spirit teaches us all things we need to know.

That does not mean there isn’t a proper role for a preacher/pastor, just that my relationship with God does not depend in any way on someone that stands between God and myself.


4 posted on 07/12/2011 8:14:52 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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That does not mean there isn’t a proper role for a preacher/pastor, just that my relationship with God does not depend in any way on someone that stands between God and myself.
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Well-said Sir.
i respect that, and for most of my life, i agreed with you.

...perhaps you are correct. (and, even the Catholic church, admits Protestants and Baptists, are certainly Christians, and may attain heaven.)

For sake of discussion, i will concede you have the ONE true church, not the Catholics.

...however, this is specifically about “Sola Scriptura”.
which does have many problems.
1) there is a verse (Peter?) that says some scripture is too difficult to understand. and for that, you should go to your teacher.
2) other verses, warn against listening to unschooled and false teachers. HOW CAN YOU KNOW? it seems illogical, that Jesus wouldn’t tell us to go to teachers, without a means of telling the good ones.
in medicine, we have “board certified” doctors. imperfect, but better than pot-luck...
3) there is a verse, that talks about the importance of scripture. and it refers SPECIFICALLY to a piece of scripture, that is NOT in the current Bible...
4) Ephesians and others show Jesus loved his flock, his church. he promised to guide them. Yet after he returned to Heaven, he left teachers and apostles, though laying on hands and Holy Spirit... but NO Bible !!!
...not for what, 200 years was it completed?

Jesus left, without first giving us the SOLE instruction manual?

others know these points better than me. again, perhaps SoConPubbie is in the ONE true church, spoken of REPEATEDLY in the Bible.
but, “Sola Scriptura”, is falsified by the very book it claims is “Sola”.

(and, please? someone tell me, why Jesus would allow the ONE church on earth, to have holy scripture in the Bible, that was REMOVED, only after 1500 years, when Martin Luther said “hey, those books shouldn’t have been in there for 1500 years...”.)


17 posted on 07/12/2011 12:40:01 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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