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To: D-fendr

You caught me. I agree it is big-ish deal, but that isn’t what this thread is about. I was hoping you would respond to the first part of my response, not the second. But, like I said, that isn’t what this thread is about.

Jesus prayed for us to become one as he/father are one. That will happen, but it probably won’t be what most people want it to be.


23 posted on 07/12/2011 2:17:59 PM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Yes, I am happy to see you. But that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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To: LearnsFromMistakes
You caught me. I agree it is big-ish deal, but that isn’t what this thread is about. I was hoping you'd respond..

I really wasn't attempting a gotcha. I'll try to respond to the first part, which if I'm understanding correctly, is about Paul, the Lord's Day, Sabbath.

My response is that it was a big deal that this wasn't a big deal. :)

I'll explain: Romans is Paul writing to two different groups in Rome. The Jewish converts and the gentile converts. They were severely split on doctrine. Did one have to be a Jew, were the Jewish practices no longer in effect? What was the relationship of Jews in the New Covenant? Etc. etc.

This was a very big deal, it was to be the pivot upon which Christianity turned. Paul is resolving a major division of critical importance to the future of the Church. My point is that Paul and the Apostles had authority to decide what is the true Christian belief and faith and soteriology. Big deals.

We don't appreciate it perhaps; but we still have these divisions. We have messianic judaism, nestorianims, modalism, etc. All the heterodoxy and divisions the Church has dealt with in the past are with us anew.

And they will be so long as the Church is a single individual with his own determination of Scripture.

Jesus prayed for us to be One. He established the manner and means for this.

I appreciate your courteous discussion complete with disagreement very much.

27 posted on 07/12/2011 4:24:42 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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