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To: bronx2; marshmallow
Sola Scriptura isn't in the Scriptures so if you only accept Scripture you can't accept the doctrine of Sola Scriptura. The fact that all Scripture is profitable for instruction, etc., doesn't trump the fact that the Church is called the bulwark of the faith, not the written word. I realize a lot of people argue about there being no need for a priesthood of any sort, but I also realize that Christ constantly called us sheep and told the Apostles to feed his sheep. The Holy Spirit is our comforter who makes it possible to understand what we're taught, as I understand it, and the Apostles were to be our shepherds and ordain others as shepherds to help the sheep stay in the fold and away from harm. I think those are two different roles because even while the Apostles are still alive there were people misinterpreting what they had been taught and who needed a shepherd to set them straight. I just don't see Christ dwelling on what sheep we are and not establishing a system of making sure the sheep had genuine shepherds.

I think a lot of people who realize they need Salvation and that Christ is their Savior sincerely set out to follow Christ but end up back on their old path due to the doctrine of Sola Scriptura. When they're taught that they can rely on their own understanding, their own restatement His Word, and their own interactions with whatever spirit they hear, they're falling for the same lie Eve fell for.

It's useless to argue about, though, since the majority of people realize it's far easier to rationalize any behavior they want to indulge in than it is to change their behavior. As their own final authority on the meaning of Scriptures, there's no need for them to bother changing. Churches ordain queers, marry queers, and proclaim universal salvation, all based on their interpretation of Scriptures. One year a church preaches that no Christian should have tattoos or gamble. When members are getting tats while in Vegas anyway, the same church preaches about the freedom we have in Christ that allows such things. I'm sure everyone can think of their own examples as well.

JMHO

Regards

16 posted on 07/12/2011 12:32:14 PM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is insane but kept medicated and on golf courses to hide it)
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To: Rashputin
even while the Apostles are still alive there were people misinterpreting what they had been taught and who needed a shepherd to set them straight.

Not only that, but the apostles had disagreements amongst themselves. For example, Paul was able to set Peter straight on some issues, but other times God had to correct even the apostles.

Don't get me wrong, they were awesome men. But God showed us that we all need corrections at some point. The 'body of Christ' is an amazing thing.

19 posted on 07/12/2011 12:47:13 PM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Yes, I am happy to see you. But that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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To: Rashputin
It's useless to argue about, though, since the majority of people realize it's far easier to rationalize any behavior they want to indulge in than it is to change their behavior. As their own final authority on the meaning of Scriptures, there's no need for them to bother changing. Churches ordain queers, marry queers, and proclaim universal salvation, all based on their interpretation of Scriptures.

True...And your religion provides the same incorrect 'private interpretation' as everyone else...

You got priests wearing what appear to be a combination of attire from the OT Temple period mixed with pagan religious priests, and you try to set up your religious heiarchy the same as it was done in the OT...

For you guys, the veil of the Temple has never been ripped in two...

Your religion is full of OT legalism...

When members are getting tats while in Vegas anyway, the same church preaches about the freedom we have in Christ that allows such things. I'm sure everyone can think of their own examples as well.

Just because you guys don't believe God, it doesn't make this is untrue...You can't change the truth by your private interpretation...

The bible says not to get tattoos...But Jesus will not disown his own children for getting a tattoo...Bible says it's lawful to get a tattoo but it is not expedient...

We are under Grace, NOT the law...

25 posted on 07/12/2011 3:01:58 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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