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To: dartuser
Agreement with what the RCC teaches is not a definition of unity. "If you agree with me, we're unified" doesn't cut it. I am seeking the truth, you cannot have unity without truth.

On this we agree. From experience I will also say that you can't have unity with those who begin from the proposition that what the Catholic Church believes must be wrong... let's go find another answer. I have friends who attended Dallas Theological Seminar and I know this to be an indirect, but clear, directive. It is palpable even here on this forum. As you say, truth is truth, regardless of the source. The Church has listened to many throughout history who have expanded Her understanding of issues. Doctrines were not changed, mind you... but understandings can evolve with revelation.

I disagree, it speaks loudly of the folly of FAULTY interpretation.

Aye, there's the rub. So, whose interpretation is faulty? Who has the authority in Protestant circles to decide? Without authority, there is no unity.

No, I wouldn't do that ... I am not blind to the impasse that exists that will not be bridged between our faiths.

Sounds like you're just agreeing to disagree already.

Again, we are talking about truth. Your subtle equivalence; that somehow "length of time" lends credibility to the truthfulness of a doctrine is particularly troubling for me.

It isn't the length of time that is significant. It is the source of the doctrine... Christ Himself. No other Church (besides the Eastern Orthodox and we're still talking with them on our disagreements) traces their orthodoxy back to the Source of Christianity Who is Christ the Lord. That is the lesson of time... not its length.

Thus the basis for the reformation.

And has this reformation led to unity as Christ desired for His Church? Or will you, in honesty, acknowledge that this split has led to tens of thousands of further divisions?

We are to walk by faith and not by sight. There are doctrines of the Church that the Church acknowledges are mysteries... even the Magisterium doesn't fully understand them. But we trust in Our Lord's providence and in the Holy Spirit promised to us as our guide and comforter for all time.

May God bless you.

102 posted on 07/14/2011 5:17:12 PM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: pgyanke
This is turning in a serious discussion ... don't know about you ... but I am enjoying it.

Aye, there's the rub. So, whose interpretation is faulty? Who has the authority in Protestant circles to decide? Without authority, there is no unity.

No ... Authority only forces the appearance of unity ...

It is truth that leads to unity ... not the application of authority.

Let me illustrate ... The Catholic book you consulted for your analysis of the teaching in Psalm 119, tell me about it ... who wrote that? Some representative of the RCC right? Who decided that his analysis was correct? The Church did right?

Are you claiming that the exegesis is correct because it was written by the RCC?

How do Catholics argue amongst themselves over differing Biblical interpretations and how is the true interpretation determined in your camp?

112 posted on 07/15/2011 9:57:50 AM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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