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To: reaganaut

I think you are mistaking me for somebody who cares what you think of my beliefs. Frankly I don’t have some burning need for your approval, and experience has lead me to seriously doubt that you or your like minded friends here have any intention of giving a fair hearing to anything I have to say.

I’ve stated my opinion on the ideas in the article and my reasons for those opinions. Any honest hearted reader can see that, and I’m content to let them judge between us on the basis of what is already posted here. You probably think you’ve ‘exposed’ something about my faith, but really all you’ve done is give everybody a little look into your heart, and it isn’t a pretty sight. That’s all I wanted to accomplish here.


314 posted on 07/24/2011 6:36:16 PM PDT by Grig
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To: Grig

“...experience has lead me to seriously doubt that you or your like minded friends here have any intention of giving a fair hearing to anything I have to say.”

I would give you an absolute fair hearing of any facts, evidence or valid logical argument that supports mormonism’s claims. I’ve asked for years. Nothing factual or convincing yet.

I would balance out any purported facts against the unBiblical teachings of mormonism.


316 posted on 07/24/2011 7:39:15 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (This message carfully checkd to misteakes by powerful softwhere)
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To: Grig; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; Tennessee Nana; ...
I’ve stated my opinion on the ideas in the article and my reasons for those opinions.

Oh really? From your posting history HERE, it appears that you have done more scolding and accusing others than giving opinions on the article.

Any honest hearted reader can see that, and I’m content to let them judge between us on the basis of what is already posted here.

We are content to let any "honest hearted reader" judge who is posting facts backed up by sources.

You probably think you’ve ‘exposed’ something about my faith, but really all you’ve done is give everybody a little look into your heart, and it isn’t a pretty sight. That’s all I wanted to accomplish here.

It sure seems that the "exposure" here is summarized in your comment regarding the hearts of others and your feeling of "accomplishment" in demonizing those who refuse to allow the daily proselytizing worldwide of mormonism to continue unanswered.

When the relentless campaign of the mormon church, in 52,000 missionaries lying to others about the way to salvation, the multi-million dollar TV and radio ads and thousands of internet sites doing the same are ended, THEN and only then can mormons compare their hearts to the hearts of Christians.

...and GOD is the judge of our hearts, NOT someone who follows the charlatan Smith.

322 posted on 07/25/2011 7:50:17 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (My God can't be bribed by money or good works or bound by manmade "covenants". Romney's can.)
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To: Grig; greyfoxx39; aMorePerfectUnion; Colofornian; ejonesie22; Elsie; Godzilla; svcw
It doesn't matter if I care what you think about me. Nor do I expect you to care what I think. What is important is what CHRIST thinks of your beliefs. And Christ condemns them in His Word (the Bible). It isn't about me and you, it is about you and Christ and my attempt to get you to think for yourself rather than just go blindly into a very real, very hot Hell. Don't take my word for it, read the Bible (in context), look up the old LDS leaders quotes, find out what your church REALLY believes.

giving a fair hearing to anything I have to say.

I would be willing to give a fair hearing to anything posted. But, remember Grig, I used to be Mormon, I know all the pat answers, I even used to give them myself. I was once where you are, happy being LDS, hateful of the 'antis', accused them of lying without checking out their statements, refused to debate, fell back on my testimony.

But something a professor of mine (before I was LDS) said stuck in the back of my mind - "A faith that can not be defended is a faith that is not worth having." With that in mind, I sought out to prove the antis wrong and ended up realizing that Mormonism cannot be defended, so it is not a faith worth having.

I’ve stated my opinion on the ideas in the article and my reasons for those opinions.

You have called names and stated opinions, but none of those opinions have been backed up by a single fact.

Any honest hearted reader can see that, and I’m content to let them judge between us on the basis of what is already posted here.

As Grey said, we are more than happy to let an honest hearted reader judge the FACTS we post about Mormonism. And the fact that no Mormon ever can defend their faith, they come out of the gate with name calling.

You probably think you’ve ‘exposed’ something about my faith, but really all you’ve done is give everybody a little look into your heart, and it isn’t a pretty sight.

Grig, we KNOW we have exposed much about LDS teachings on these threads, using their own sources. And I pray my heart has been exposed, and it is a beautiful sight, because my heart is full of Christ and love for the lost, love for Mormons. My heart leads me to do what God has called me to do, expose the darkness of Mormonism and replace it with the Light of Christ.

That’s all I wanted to accomplish here.

And you have failed in that. What you have accomplished however, is showing the lurkers how self-righteous the LDS are, how there is NO intellectual defense of Mormonism, there is no BIBLICAL defense of Mormonism. What you have exposed is how the LDS can't defend their religion, they just resort to name calling rather than actually debating.

Mormonism makes its followers feel good, like they are 'doing their part' to pay back Christ, that they are paying their fair share with tithing, that they are working towards Godhood, just like "Heavenly Father" did.

John 8:44-47 is the perfect description of the LDS - You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”

Can you prove I am lying? No, you just resort to name calling then a superior attitude. You cannot hear because you do not belong to God, but to your father the Devil. Satan is the author and finisher of the Mormon faith and that is fully proven by the temple ordinances (you put on an apron that symbolizes Lucifer's priesthood), the false Christ, the works required, the occult symbols and teachings.

My heart breaks for Mormons. I want nothing more than to see them brought out of spiritual darkness and into the Light of Christ.

323 posted on 07/25/2011 9:03:47 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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