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To: sr4402

Imagination is a great thing, it requires the slightest nudge
to get it in motion. What people believe is a very private and personal thing and we all believe what we want to believe for whatever reason, usually because of what we were born into. Most Catholics are Catholics because they were born into the Catholic faith, Muslims are Muslims for the same reason, Jew are Jews for the same reason. There are some who have gone from one faith to another for their own reasons but
by and large we stay in the faith we were born into. If you believe you can talk to God through prayer or any other way that’s great and good for you. I would not for a moment try to convince you to believe what I believe, it is different
from your belief. Your belief probably provides some comfort
and peace and so does mine, and it’s different from yours.
Are you right or am I right? it really matters not a whit. We will wind up in the same place and then you can tell me how right you were or we shall never meet again. Blasphemy?
not at all, it’s just what I believe.


8 posted on 07/04/2011 7:41:06 AM PDT by greyfox (If I were a Democrat I'd be pushing for the fairness doctrine too.)
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To: greyfox
... it really matters not a whit. We will wind up in the same place and then you can tell me how right you were or we shall never meet again. Are you right or am I right? it really matters not a whit. We will wind up in the same place and then you can tell me how right you were or we shall never meet again.

Ah, no. If someone tells you that there is no gravity on earth, will you believe them and walk off a cliff? If they say 'Stealing is OK because the rich and store owners don't need their possessions' will you believe them and go steal?

If someone says "Money is just paper and Electronic gobblety gook" and you believe it, will you open your wallet to me and say "Help Yourself"??

You say "it really matters not a whit" but Jesus asks "What will a man give for his soul?"

(to ransom it from hell). Jesus says it matters for your life.

So the question is not what I say, but whether Jesus is right.

Was He right to say, to the woman caught in adultery, "Go and Sin no more"? Can you find fault with that?

Was He right to say to the Pharisees, "Unless you believe that I AM HE, you will die in your sins"? Was He right or was He deluded?

What you are trying to tell me is that there is no reality - that it is all relative to the person. But when it becomes personal, if I steal from you, or assault you - you will not consider it relative.

Truth is truth whether you believe it or not. If you say it is not, you will walk off a cliff with no support and prove that Gravity is not the truth.

Go ahead, I am waiting.

14 posted on 07/04/2011 10:21:45 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: greyfox
"Imagination is a great thing, it requires the slightest nudge to get it in motion. ...Are you right or am I right? it really matters not a whit. We will wind up in the same place..

Belief in Disbelief, or Inside the Postmodern Skeptic Tank

“[T]he new rebel is a skeptic, and will not entirely trust anything.... And the fact that he doubts everything really gets in the way when he wants to denounce anything. For denunciation implies a moral doctrine of some kind; and the modern revolutionist doubts not only the institution he denounces, but the doctrine by which he denounces it.... In his book on politics he attacks men for trampling on morality; in his book on ethics he attacks morality for trampling on men. ­~ G.K. Chesterton

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Life Amidst the Postmodern Ruins

"... I was very impressed with how Chesterton, although writing in 1907, had already diagnosed the pathologies of the left. In fact, his ideas mirror exactly what Polanyi wrote some 50 years later about the “moral inversion” of the left, i.e., the dangerous combination of radical skepticism and an unhinged, ruthless moral perfectionism unbound from tradition.

15 posted on 07/04/2011 10:35:15 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ("I used to think Obama was an empty suit but now I think he has filled his pants." ~badgerlandjim)
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