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The Early Church Fathers on the Scriptures: Reading Scripture with the Early Church...[Ecumenical]
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Posted on 06/14/2011 5:26:34 PM PDT by Salvation

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To: smvoice; one Lord one faith one baptism

Isd this getting to antagonism?

If that is true....please check out the rules for Ecumenical threads.


81 posted on 06/17/2011 9:55:16 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: smvoice; one Lord one faith one baptism

Is this getting to antagonism?

If that is true....please check out the rules for Ecumenical threads.


82 posted on 06/17/2011 9:55:42 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation; smvoice

not in my opinion, it’s a healthy debate that i think many people are benefitting from. i think you started the thread, so if you want me to leave, i will.


83 posted on 06/17/2011 9:58:01 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
Your first problem with your Bible is your Bible, If you had a KJV, you would read dispensation. Do NOT accuse me of changing God's word. I have a KJV and that's what I use. Strike one on this post. For an outright lie about me changing words.

You do not know enough of your Bible to know that the Kingdom is in remission now, Israel has been temporarily blinded and God is dealing with another group of people, apart from Israel. Strike two on this post, for not having enough Biblical sense to follow it.

And IF you could read along, you would discover that Paul was proud that he had baptized so few. THe dispensations were changing from law to grace and what the law demanded, grace provided. Strike three on this post, for not taking the time to read Rom. through Phil. to at least TRY to get it.

I am going to tell you one last time on this post, do not EVER accuse me of lying, or changing God's word. I take accusations like those seriously.

84 posted on 06/17/2011 10:01:35 PM PDT by smvoice (The Cross was NOT God's Plan B.)
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To: smvoice; one Lord one faith one baptism
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

Also, this Religion Forum thread is labeled "ecumenical" meaning no antagonism is allowed.

Both of you: tone it down.

85 posted on 06/17/2011 10:09:59 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: smvoice

the first problem is even if the KJV uses the word “dispensation”, it does not mean it in the sense you are claiming, so yes, in effect you changed the word. in context, the word here means to “manage, to hand out, to dispense”, it absolutely isn’t saying that a new “age” has dawned different than Acts 2!
Jesus says the Kingdom will be preached than the end will come, since He is the King, i think He should know if His Kingdom is still in effect. you keep changing your story, yesterday you said the Kingdom has been replaced by the new dispensation of grace and now you say the Kingdom is in “remission” ( but, of course, no Scriptures are provided that says this )
no my friend, Jesus’s Kingdom is not in remission, he dealt the devil a death blow at the cross, he bound the strong man and thru His Church has been plundering the kingdom of Satan for 2,000 years.
again, you provide no Scripture for your “unique” belief that baptism is not for today, even though Jesus specifically commanded it in Matthew 28. St Paul was glad he baptized so few because he didn’t want factions in the Church at Corinth, but the fact remains, HE DID BAPTIZE!! and all of the people who received the word of God, WERE BAPTIZED BY PAUL OR SOMEBODY ELSE! you can’t provide any Scripture where Paul or any other Apostle says BAPTISM IS NOT FOR TODAY. this is such a weird reading of the Bible that 99.9% of non-Catholics reject it, even Baptists, with all of their false teaching, still baptize.
again, i ask you to provide Scripture that baptism is not for today. your posts are full of your unique opinion, but very little Scripture to back up what you are saying.


86 posted on 06/18/2011 4:23:22 AM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
if i find someone saying the Bible was written by primitive savages, i will join you in denouncing them. The Holy Spirit is the author of the Scriptures.

Then I will endeavor (beli neder) to ping you to such posts in the future and will expect you to speak out.

i wish you would believe in Jesus and His sacrificial death for your sins,

Now you're sounding just like one of those awful Fundamentalist Protestants you despise so much.

Jesus said unless you believe He was sent by the Father, you will die in your sin.

So? Joseph Smith claimed to be a prophet.

87 posted on 06/18/2011 7:49:44 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu.)
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yes, please do ping me and i will join you in denouncing them.

don’t despise the FP, just despise their FALSE beliefs. If they agree with the Catholics on the need for Faith in the sacrificial death of Jesus to be reconciled with the Father, i rejoice!!

comparing Jesus with Joseph Smith, i am speechless.


88 posted on 06/18/2011 7:59:42 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: Zionist Conspirator
you despise

Reading the mind of another Freeper is a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

89 posted on 06/18/2011 8:16:13 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
yes, please do ping me and i will join you in denouncing them.

I will try to do so (beli neder).

don’t despise the FP, just despise their FALSE beliefs. If they agree with the Catholics on the need for Faith in the sacrificial death of Jesus to be reconciled with the Father, i rejoice!!

I thought vicarious atonement was a heretical Protestant concept unknown to the ancient churches.

comparing Jesus with Joseph Smith, i am speechless.

Hey, they were both human beings. The foundation of my religious beliefs isn't any human being, "demigod" or not.

90 posted on 06/18/2011 8:19:12 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu.)
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To: Religion Moderator

My apologies. I try to watch my words, but sometimes I fail.


91 posted on 06/18/2011 8:21:09 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

isn’t Isaiah 53:4-6 in your Scriptures?


92 posted on 06/18/2011 8:30:42 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
isn’t Isaiah 53:4-6 in your Scriptures?

Bevadday.

93 posted on 06/19/2011 8:33:07 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu.)
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