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Well, as you are wlliing and more reasonable, and the charge is that Rome has infallibly declared that it is infallible, based upon its infallibly declared formula, which renders its own declaration to be infallible and whatever else is in conformity with it.

ROFLOL! What a great way to start catching up by reading this.

... although division is necessary because of truth, there should not be an absolute disallowance to a centralized authority, local or wider, if it be Scriptural, but which disallows one which effectively presumes supremacy to the Scriptures, and a formulaic infallibility.

That sums it up about as well as any post I've read. The Scriptural model is for Christian churches to be independent and congregational in structure, but united by our faith and guided by the Holy Spirit. A decentralized structure is one of the best weapons against heresy.

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ABSOLUTELY INDEED.

[Mad Dawg]

When I'm king of the world FR is going to display all the pingees of any post so that guys like me can tell when they're walking into an ambush. Were any other Catholics pinged to your post?

I enjoyed daniel1212's post too, It's a shame we're going to have to burn him.The Scriptural model is for Christian churches to be independent and congregational in structure, but united by our faith and guided by the Holy Spirit.

For my part, I would like to see more development of this thought. Was adherence to the Council of Jerusalem optional? Should it have been? Is or should the Nicene Creed and the Chalcedonian Definition be optional?

It's hard enough to know the guidance of the Holy Spirit, but if over HERE they're saying Jesus did not have a human will and over THERE they're saying he was a good man who was adopted into deity, when does such a divergence of opinion become deviation from 'faith'? How can one tell?

Real question. I left my gotcha in my other pants.