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To: Craftmore
"still sounds like worship to me,and sounds like you think Mary holds special status sounds like co-redeemer,,"

I'm sorry you feel that way, but that will not affect the Catholic doctrines.

138 posted on 06/13/2011 9:16:45 PM PDT by Natural Law (For God so loved the world He did not send a book.)
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To: Natural Law

Im looking for scriptural basis for these beliefs,not doctrines.Doctrines once said the earth was flat and the sun revolved around the earth,doctrines once created the inquisition.where are the scriptures to back this up?


139 posted on 06/13/2011 9:43:24 PM PDT by Craftmore
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To: Natural Law; Craftmore
I'm sorry you feel that way, but that will not affect the Catholic doctrines.

Not so fast, there... the Roman Catholic Church DOES teach Mary as co-redeemer AND "mediatrix" -- it's all right there in the Catechism of the Catholic Church (you do agree that is a doctrinal document, right?):

'969 "This motherhood of Mary in the order of grace continues uninterruptedly from the consent which she loyally gave at the Annunciation and which she sustained without wavering beneath the cross, until the eternal fulfilment of all the elect. Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation .... Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix."'

emphasis mine.

How can this be when Christ himself says in John 6:44:

"44No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day."

Mary does NOTHING to bring us grace; only God. The Father draws us to Christ, not Mary. Mary provides NO mediation as is plainly stated in 1 Timothy 2:5-6:

"5For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all, which is the testimony given at the proper time."

If there is only one mediator between God and Man, and that is Jesus Christ, why does the Roman Catholic Church teach through its catechism that Mary is a "Mediatrix"?

Looks like there IS faulty doctrine here and it is plain to see in the CCC.

Hoss

163 posted on 06/14/2011 6:14:45 AM PDT by HossB86 ( NOBODY admits to being a Calvinist unless they are one. I AM ONE.)
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