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To: Natural Law

im just an ignorant man,but please explain to me,why if you dont worship or consider Mary to be a co-redeemer,why then do you pray to Mary to be with you now and at the moment of your death?My wife is catholic and prays that ,,and ive heard every catholic ive ever known,,pray tht prayer.Please seriuosly explain to me how Mary can be with you now and at the moment of your death and not be a co-redeemer?If she isnt why is she there?


132 posted on 06/13/2011 8:34:28 PM PDT by Craftmore
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To: Craftmore

My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.

Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen

Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.

Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.

Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.

Amen.

She became the Mother of God, in which work so many and such great good things are bestowed on her as pass man’s understanding. For on this there follows all honor, all blessedness, and her unique place in the whole of mankind, among which she has no equal, namely, that she had a child by the Father in heaven, and such a Child . . . Hence men have crowded all her glory into a single word, calling her the Mother of God . . . None can say of her nor announce to her greater things, even though he had as many tongues as the earth possesses flowers and blades of grass: the sky, stars; and the sea, grains of sand. It needs to be pondered in the heart what it means to be the Mother of God.

(Commentary on the Magnificat, 1521; in Luther’s Works, Pelikan et al, vol. 21, 326)


133 posted on 06/13/2011 8:40:28 PM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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To: Craftmore
"why then do you pray to Mary to be with you now and at the moment of your death?"

Actually, we ask Mary to pray for us sinners.

There are a number of definitions that one must accept to fully understand what Catholics mean when they say something. Many Protestants believe that "Pray" means only to worship. Websters dictionary says it means: (1) To utter petition to God ... (2) To make a fervent request: PLEAD (3) To beseech: implore (4) to make a devout or earnest request for.

Catholics do not believe that heaven is populated by the dead. We believe that those already in heaven are very much alive and are able to hear our intentions.

We also believe that of all of the saints in Heaven Mary hold a special place because, as we are told in Luke 1:30, Mary was favored by God and was blessed among women (Luke 1:42).

136 posted on 06/13/2011 8:57:19 PM PDT by Natural Law (For God so loved the world He did not send a book.)
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