Posted on 06/13/2011 3:57:07 PM PDT by HarleyD
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I suppose a whiner might claim it was a personal assault.
Maybe this will help.
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Why? Nestorians don't believe Jesus is God???
So, do we now have another one here fixated on an Ishtar-Mary goddess?
I'm not fixated...The people that I know who are bible believers take it for granted that you guys, although they convinced you that you are venerating Mary, are in fact worshiping Ishtar, or one of the many names she goes by...
The names your religion attributes to Mary have been in use long before Mary ever showed up...
The pagan Romans were worshiping the Queen of Heaven and the mother of God when your religion was taken in by the pagans...
Nothing new...Mary, the mother of God was around long before Jesus showed up...Just a different name is all...
Partly.
The people that I know who are bible believers take it for granted that you guys... are in fact worshiping Ishtar
Well, that's what happens when they take things for granted and don't really know what they are talking about.
The names your religion attributes to Mary have been in use long before Mary ever showed up...
So what. The name "Christianity" was in use long before the church of the Lazy Boy showed up on the scene.
The pagan Romans were worshiping the Queen of Heaven and the mother of God
That's why they were pagans.
when your religion was taken in by the pagans...
Don't believe everything you read in the comics.
Mary, the mother of God was around long before Jesus showed up
That's not Christian belief.
Just a different name is all...
So you guys keep claiming. Pretty soon y'all might believe it.
Awwwwwwwwwwww
my heart bleeds purple peanut butter . . .
LOL.
Soundd like some more psychos' linguistics.
Why? Nestorians don't believe Jesus is God???
So to speak. Not the Christian Trinitarian God, for sure.
The pagan Romans were worshiping the Queen of Heaven and the mother of God when your religion was taken in by the pagans...
We converted the Roman pagans and gave you the Bible. You're welcome.
Nothing new...Mary, the mother of God was around long before Jesus showed up...Just a different name is all...
We think that she was about 14 or so. I suppose that you might think that that is a long time.
If you feel FR is not your cup of tea, please do us all a favor and just log off. I hate long goodbyes and I hate being trolled by smart asses.
I HAVE posted to "my cohorts" - though I do not abide by an us vs. them approach - so I can't help it if you have missed or ignored them. I do not think I have ever noticed you doing what you accuse me of failing to do. I'll stand by my posting history, will you do the same?
Though he doesn't exactly describe a "society", he certainly tells about "The Secret of Mary". In it, he speaks of a secret that the Most High God revealed only to him by the Holy Spirit. He emphasizes that: TO FIND THE GRACE OF GOD, WE MUST DISCOVER MARY. He declares that;
God chose her to be the treasurer, the administrator and the dispenser of all his graces, so that all his graces and gifts pass through her hands. Such is the power that she has received from him that, according to St Bernardine, she gives the graces of the eternal Father, the virtues of Jesus Christ, and the gifts of the Holy Spirit to whom she wills, as and when she wills, and as much as she wills.
Since Mary produced the head of the elect, Jesus Christ, she must also produce the members of that head, that is, all true Christians. A mother does not conceive a head without members, nor members without a head. If anyone, then, wishes to become a member of Jesus Christ, and consequently be filled with grace and truth , he must be formed in Mary through the grace of Jesus Christ, which she possesses with a fullness enabling her to communicate it abundantly to true members of Jesus Christ, her true children.
There is much more that, as far as I know, no attempts have been made to remove or further clarify what this Catholic saint teaches. I think it explains quite a bit about why there is so much resistance to disagree with anything the magesterium has proclaimed about Mary. To do so would be grounds for excommunication and therefore a sentence of Hell if not repented.
That’s NOT at all my feeling.
I passionately care about FR.
I passionately care about and support FR’s goals and values.
I passionately care about you as a person.
I’m sorry I’m evidently faulty in communicating that effectively.
I will try to be more effective at that.
hmmmmmmmmm
So, in concise to the point of opacity response to you, two things: The BIGGIE is when (if ever) does "misbelief" reach to such severity that it interferes with salvation?
The second is a proposed distinction between what one "must" believe in general and what one must be teaching to teach with the Church.
I can see, with your prompting, a devout Christian Jew praying, "Lord, I'm not so sure about letting those Gentiles in. Nevertheless not my will but thine."
However, if, after the Jerusalem council he teaches and preaches that the Gentiles must be circumcised, etc. SOMEBODY needs to do something.
How about that?
As a Catholic, I find your mocking, anti-Catholic rhetoric appalling, outrageous and offensive to the extreme. How you all can be allowed to post such scurrilous bigotry and blatantly hateful and demeaning remarks here about my faith, ANYone’s Christian faith of another denomination or any FReeper’s personal faith is beyond me.
Who made you the arbiter of anyone’s religious beliefs?
There’s only ONE who knows the true heart and intentions of each of us, and He’s not a FReeper.
God help you.
Hes not a FReeper... on earth.
Of possible interest, ping.
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And non-members are not allowed to post on RF threads labeled caucus, e.g. "Catholic Caucus."
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I see.
I will avoid it in this already very dark and coarsened culture, while I wonder how this type of abusive and vitriolic arguing “against other beliefs” enhances FR. But that’s just me.
Thank you for taking the time to explain.
Well, it can be educational.
For example, if you wanted to know what it might have been like living in certain areas of the U.S. with the Know Nothing Party in the mid-19th century
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