Posted on 06/13/2011 3:57:07 PM PDT by HarleyD
Then we get into the battle of the scholars. LOL.
judith -- the Trinity can be confusing to a lot of folks. hence the retreat back to saying Jesus was just a good man or the second-last prophet. Simplicity and submission
I know which I believe. It is WRITTEN.
His Word, the Word of God is Jesus Christ and yes Jesus Christ was 100% man and 100% God -- that's what we Christians believe. Don't you?
Your denial aside, the Holy Traditions of the Church comprise a lot of it. Were all that is necessary containable in a Book God would have repeated the Mosaic process and sent the Gospel on Stone Tablets. Instead He sent His Son to establish a Church.
So, don't you believe in Original Sin/Original Stain? really?
Some seem to forget or be unaware . . .
that their absurd convoluted manipulations of Scripture coupled with their posting history results in more obnoxious silly tedium than is remotely attractive at this point in the process.
They may convince themselves that their manipulations are brilliant and even applicable.
They may even think that their Alice-in-Wonderland-thought processes are logical, practical, functional, accurate.
However, I don’t know of anything short of HOLY SPIRIT’S ENLIGHTENMENT IN LEADING THEM INTO THE WHOLE TRUTH OF SCRIPTURE that can break through their denial and rationalizations.
And, with some, given their hop-skip and jump hermeneutics . . . it’s not remotely attractive to bother with them any more. There must be some salty river rocks they can go suck on somewhere.
I’ve given in their behalf at home and at the office fairly endlessly. They have no more claim on my assistance, imho.
Here're some more, in addition to those I posted previously:
Let every person be subordinate to the higher authorities, for there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been established by God. Therefore, whoever resists authority opposes what God has appointed, and those who oppose it will bring judgment upon themselves."
Obey your leaders and defer to them, for they keep watch over you
So that the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known through the church to the principalities and authorities in the heavens.
We belong to God, and anyone who knows God listens to us, while anyone who does not belong to God refuses to hear us. This is how we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of deceit.
I said,as quoted by you :Perseveration is neither evidence nor argument.
You wrote about: | P R E S E R V A T I O N |
I wrote about: | P E R S E V E R A T I O N |
You can see that they are different words. So I don't see how your response relates to my remark.
Some here seem incapable of distinguishing between the two. Blatant bibliolatry - and proud of it.
It’s my impression from years of RF combat (wanna see my medals?) that there are some who think that original sin (or the curse of Adam or whatever you want to call it — the result of the disobedience, in any case) is actually transmitted by the ‘Y’ chromosome, and that that’s part of why Jesus, if he were to be sinless had to have NOT had a human father.
Great insight, thanks.
That is so bizarre. As if Mary didn’t need Christ as her Savior and Lord.
True.
And this explains the internet prayer:
“Y not me, Lord.”
Well, let me pick a nit.
Vatican I, in which papal infallibility was ‘defined’ was not one guy saying,”I’m infallible”, but a bunch of guys saying, “We’re infallible when we say that he’s infallible.” That’s a little different.
But still, we find in scripture talk of a gift of teaching. I guess it would be good to look at how good that gift can be if what is taught is not reliable.
And I guess your side has to say that the Council of Acts 15 could have been wrong when it said, “IT seems good to the Holy SPirit and to us,...” OR that that was the last council. And where would you find that in Scripture?
The idea CAN be expressed to make it look completely off the wall. But it can also be expressed to show its Biblical roots which make it a tad less bizarre.
LOL.
I HAD wondered ....
I haven’t checked, but I heard that the last line of the Westminster Confession of Faith is:
“But we could be wrong about all this.”
I don't know if it is intellectual dishonesty, intellectual laziness, or intellectual limitations that have prevented you from grasping that "God's Word" is much more than the portion that was written. Jesus said: "It is written, MAN SHALL NOT LIVE ON BREAD ALONE, BUT ON EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS OUT OF THE MOUTH OF GOD., but it had not yet been put to paper, so "It is written" obviously means something other than putting quill to parchment, pencil to paper or chisel to stone. It means "contained within the Word of God", not necessarily the written Word.
You bibliolaters really need to get off the backs of Christians and look to your own salvation.
The art of misdirection???
Here is what I asked you to prove:
"...Remember no bishop exists, or has ever existed who has not had the hands of a bishop placed upon him during ordination."
The above is not Scriptural. Again, I ask you to prove it.
Oops. Mad Dawgs can err too, and frequently do!
I should have said that I was referring to the Anglican “Articles of Religion” when I said the following.
Articles 19 and 21 aver that councils can err.
So what you’re left with is, “This is our best guess.”
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