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Zion is for the righteious and the righteou has ears to hear!

Tha gathering is on going and the message is for all who can hear and receive.....

LDS Church Leaders preparing us for the 2nd Coming of Christ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=iw&v=IqaesQ2EE8w

Come To Zion While Babylon Falls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R9x_um9Cak


88 posted on 06/14/2011 9:54:20 AM PDT by restornu (I really do need to give up my summer cottage in Babylon...Love One Another... God Bless America!)
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To: restornu; greyfoxx39; All
Zion is for the righteious...

Whereas the true Jesus (not the Mormon jesus) is for sinners. He said: "I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.” (Matt. 9:13)

Meanwhile, you self-righteous legalists can continue to have your supposed "holy" huddle general conferences twice-a-year.

90 posted on 06/14/2011 10:52:00 AM PDT by Colofornian (I already have a God as my leader. Why do I need ANOTHER one as POTUS?)
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To: restornu
Tha gathering is on going and the message is for all who can hear and receive.....LDS Church Leaders preparing us for the 2nd Coming of Christ

In the meanwhile, Resty, exactly what are those restless husbands (& spouses generally) doing up there while their faithful spouses patiently wait for their turn to join them?

Seems to me that the ones who were Mormon First Presidents --like "apostle" Heber C. Kimball and "prophet" Brigham Young -- ought to know, right?

What did they have to say?

If you go to pp. 231-234 of the Tanners' online book, The Changing World of Mormonism, you will find these excerpts:

Lds First President Heber C Kimball prophesied that he would have thousands of wives (Tanners, p. 234):

Supposing that I have a wife or a dozen of them, and she should say, "You cannot be exalted without me," and suppose they all should say so, what of that? ... Suppose that I lose the whole of them before I go into the spirit world, but that I have been a good, faithful man ... do you think I will be destitute there. No, the Lord says there are more there than there are here ... there are millions of them, ... we will go to brother Joseph and say, "Here we are brother Joseph; we are here ourselves are we not, with none of the property we possessed in our probationary state, not even the rings on our fingers?" He will say to us, "Come along, my boys, we will give you a good suit of clothes. Where are your wives?" "They are back yonder; they would not follow us." "Never mind," says Joseph, "Here are thousands, have all you want" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, p. 209).

...Brigham Young boasted of his ability to obtain many wives: "Brother Cannon remarked that people wondered how many wives and children I had. He may inform them, that I shall have wives and children by the million, and glory, and riches and power and dominion, and kingdom after kingdom, and reign triumphantly" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 8, p. 178, as cited by the Tanners, p. 233).

Seems to me, Resty, that there's all kinds of Mormon husbands of Lds widows left down here who might be having all kinds of "new bride fun" up yonder, eh?

91 posted on 06/14/2011 11:17:22 AM PDT by Colofornian (I already have a God as my leader. Why do I need ANOTHER one as POTUS?)
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To: restornu
LDS Church Leaders preparing us for the 2nd Coming of Christ

In the meanwhile...

...there's all the posthumous new bride sealing shenanigans that might be going on with all those deceased husbands of Mormon women...with their earth-based wives unaware of all that, eh?

Secondary source for citations below: The Changing World of Mormonism

Posthumous "marriages" to Brigham Young (p. 233):

The Mormon writer John J. Stewart lists the names of fifty-three women who were sealed to Brigham Young, and then he adds: "There were perhaps one or two others, plus the some 150 women whom he had sealed to him; also a few women who were sealed to him after his death" (Brigham Young and His Wives, p. 96). (p. 231 of Tanners' book)

Posthumous "marriages" to Joseph Smith (Tanners, p. 232):

At the end of his paper Mr. Ivins remarked: "In addition to these dead women, Joseph Smith was sealed to at least 229 others, up to March 18, 1881. (Additional note: Sealed to 246 Dead Women.)" (Joseph Smith and Polygamy p. 47). In the Preface to the second edition of her book No Man Knows My History, Fawn Brodie states: "...over two hundred women, apparently at their own request, were sealed as wives to Joseph Smith after his death in special temple ceremonies. Moreover, a great many distinguished women in history, including several Catholic saints, were also sealed to Joseph Smith in Utah. I saw these astonishing lists in the Latter-day Saint Genealogical Archives in Salt Lake City in 1944." The Apostle John A. Widtsoe admitted that women were sealed to Joseph Smith after his death and without his approval: "After the death of the Prophet, women applied for the privilege of being sealed to him for eternity.... To these requests, assent was often given....Women no longer living, whether in Joseph's day or later, have also been sealed to the Prophet for eternity" (Evidences and Reconciliations, Single Volume Edition, 1960, pp. 342-43).

300 women were sealed for eternity to the Lds "apostle" Pratt brothers (from whom Mitt Romney is descended) (Tanners, p. 234):

According to Stanley S. Ivins, the Endowment House Records reveal that on November 22, 1870, Mormon Apostle Orson Pratt had himself sealed to 101 dead women. On November 29, 1870, he was sealed to 109 dead women. The same day (November 29, 1870) 91 dead women were sealed to his brother, Parley P. Pratt, who had died in 1857.

(There must have been a doorbuster Christmas "sale" going on re: available women that Thanksgiving week in 1870!)

Posthumous "marriages" to the Lds "prophet" Wilford Woodruff, the guy that supposedly cracked down on plural marriages! (Tanners, p. 234)

Mr. Ivins found that the St. George Temple records show that Wilford Woodruff—who later became the fourth president of the church—was sealed to 189 dead women in a period of slightly over two years (January 29, 1879 to March 14, 1881).

Who might hold the record? (p. 234)

Moses Franklin Farnsworth was sealed to 345 dead women in a two-year period. At one time we thought that Mr. Farnsworth held the record for the largest number of dead women sealed to him. New evidence, however, has forced us to revise that conclusion. On April 5, 1894, the Apostle Abraham Cannon recorded the following in his diary: THURSDAY, APRIL 5th, 1894.... I met with the Quorum and Presidency in the temple.... President Woodruff then spoke ... "In searching out my genealogy I found about four hundred of my femal[e] kindred who were never married. I asked Pres. Young what I should do with them. He said for me to have them sealed to me unless there were more that [than?] 999 of them.

92 posted on 06/14/2011 11:19:05 AM PDT by Colofornian (I already have a God as my leader. Why do I need ANOTHER one as POTUS?)
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To: restornu; Colofornian
More total BS....What an unattractive picture these videos paint of mormons, sitting in judgment on the world, claiming to be the only "righteous" inhabitants to be chosen.

Holier-than-thou, arrogant cultists shaking fingers and scolding Christians from their imagined high perch.

"Tha gathering is on going and the message is for all who can hear and receive"

How sad, that they are deafened by the fictious words of a demon-inspired charlatan!

Has anyone else noticed the portrait of arrogance painted by a golden idol on the top of every built-higher-than-neighboring-churches mormon temple, the imaginary angel Moroni, elevated to god-like stature?

The Cross of Jesus isn't worthy for that kind of honor to them. Nor is the Jesus who died for sinners, whose grace is not for sale for money, good works, or imaginary "covenants" claimed to bind God to the laws of men.

The "gathering" is going on is correct. The harvest will disappoint heretics.

93 posted on 06/14/2011 11:33:38 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (My God can't be bribed by money or good works or bound by manmade "covenants". Romney's can.)
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