He’s still getting incredible mileage from the dupes who buy into it.
They are called the children of the Reformation.
Posted on 06/11/2011 8:04:51 AM PDT by count-your-change
"The principal source of my melancholy, however, is my firm conviction that today’s most obstreperous infidels lack the courage, moral intelligence, and thoughtfulness of their forefathers in faithlessness. What I find chiefly offensive about them is not that they are skeptics or atheists; rather, it is that they are not skeptics at all and have purchased their atheism cheaply, with the sort of boorish arrogance that might make a man believe himself a great strategist because his tanks overwhelmed a town of unarmed peasants, or a great lover because he can afford the price of admission to a brothel. So long as one can choose one’s conquests in advance, taking always the paths of least resistance, one can always imagine oneself a Napoleon or a Casanova (and even better: the one without a Waterloo, the other without the clap)."
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Over and over again.
In many instances I agree with you. Their are individuals whose proselytizing seems based on an effort to convince themselves (by convincing you) that they are right. But it is not always a compulsion to have others agree that leads a person to share. For something as mundane as having discovered a great restaurant it may simply be that the person merely wants to share their good fortune with you. And for something as significant as having found the source of all life, they may be even more likely to want to share the good news with someone else.
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Now this looks interesting!
Just heard electric going’s to be off for the rest of the day.
Catch this later.
Motion: That the Catholic Church is a force to good in the world.
Before After Change
For: 678 268 -410
Against: 1102 1876 +774
Undecided: 346 34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kuzYwzGoXw
Above is the link of part 1 of 5 where the other links may be found.
Listen to the four speakers and make your own decision.
Archbishop John Onaiyekan, Ann Widecombe MP for the motion with Christopher Hitchen and Steven Fry against.
I would presume that your assessment would apply equally to the atheist who perhaps feels that he has, in his view, liberated himself from crippling superstitions and wants to share his notion of a new sense of freedom with a friend?
You nailed it on that one.
It’s all based on the two lies that Satan used in the garden.
*Did God REALLY say,.....?*
And
*You shall be as gods.*
He’s still getting incredible mileage from the dupes who buy into it.
He’s still getting incredible mileage from the dupes who buy into it.
They are called the children of the Reformation.
The problem comes in however, when the atheist isn't just about sharing his newfound lack of faith, but the concerted effort expended by said atheists to tear down and destroy the faith or others.
It's like they cannot endure having others around with vibrant, living faith who are a constant reminder to them of God and His claims on each of our lives, so they try to tear everyone else down to bring them down to their level.
That way there's none of that inconvenient conviction stuff to deal with.
There is no legitimate intellectual reason to reject God. It's ALWAYS a moral one.
As a matter of fact it would. I welcome the opportunity to dialogue with those whose positions differ from mine. And I would hate to over-categorize, but many of the atheists with which I have been personally acquainted tend to be a surprisingly defensive lot. And as you rightly point out, defensiveness often comes from insecurity about one's own position.
Each one is threatened by the other in the same way and tries to exert control over the other.
Jefferson was able to look beyond. He realized that this country is based on the idea of intellectual freedom and not one group trying to exert control over the other based on belief or lack thereof.
I disapprove of it when atheists do it and I disapprove as well when the followers of any religion try to do it.
Unfortunately, the trouble makers on both sides continue to claim victim status and the squabbling goes on.
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Don't you mean an emotional one? The definition of intellectual can be - one that is educated beyond his understanding. Most things in a person's life come down to the emotional. But there are distinctions, sure. For instance, those who leave the Faith do so for personal (emotional) reasons. Those who convert to the Faith do so for theological reasons. Would you not agree?
He’s still getting incredible mileage from the dupes who buy into it.
They are called the children of the Reformation.
Ummm, you fail at failing:
He’s still getting incredible mileage from the dupes who buy into it.
They are called the children of the Reformation.
Ummm, you fail at failing:
As long as it is in the realm of debate, I see know problem and neither, I believe, would Jefferson. It is when each side attempts by force to control the other that problems enter in.
Atheists are always trying to challenge faith just as those of faith will always challenge the belief of atheism.
It is a healthy debate in my opinion and, personally, I have little doubt that it is one that God would approve.
Atheism is a LACK of faith and belief... those who try to call atheism a belief, religion or faith do not understand the definition of the word “atheism”
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