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A Vote for Romney Is a Vote for the LDS Church: One evangelical explains why he cannot support Mitt
Patheos ^ | May 24, 2011 | Warren Cole Smith

Posted on 06/06/2011 10:36:45 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Religion aside, at one of the 1st debates in 2008, Romney boasted about his 40+ years of pro-abortion and his pride that his own mother ran on a pro-abortion platform in 1970

so when Romney claims he just wanted to defend the law...

remind him that abortion was ILLEGAL in 1970...

I will not ever vote for a murderous joke like Romney

The most precious thing I own as an American citizen is my vote

I dont hand it over to criminal minds who want to kill innocent babies, etc...


21 posted on 06/06/2011 11:21:55 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tupelo

When was the “Religion Qualification” added to the Constitution?
And where is it? I cannot find it.
Bigots show up in all guises.
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Dont they though ???

I hope you have never posted anything about Obamas religion...

Someone will be checking your posting history and looking for it

Can you say HYPOCRITE ???


22 posted on 06/06/2011 11:25:37 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana
Sir, I would suggest you check my posts. I have never posted anything questioning Obama’s religion. There is NO religious qualification in the Constitution.
if you are looking for a bigot or a hypocrite, maybe you should check your mirror. There just might be one hiding there.
23 posted on 06/06/2011 11:43:13 AM PDT by Tupelo ( 2012 TEA PARTY or no party)
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To: PMAS

Absolutely.

I don’t care if whoever runs against el Zee-rho worships a pile of talking poo, I’ll vote for him.

At least the Romney HAS a religion he regularly practices.


24 posted on 06/06/2011 12:11:06 PM PDT by Adder (Say NO to the O in 2 oh 12)
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To: Adder
I don’t care if whoever runs against el Zee-rho worships a pile of talking poo, I’ll vote for him.

Some people are far more than telling....

25 posted on 06/06/2011 12:13:32 PM PDT by caww
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

26 posted on 06/06/2011 12:14:06 PM PDT by mirkwood (Palin 12)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Anyone who votes for a candidate who supports abortion is not a conservative. Nor will they value anything else in life which might be of concern..... If they can’t protect the life of an innocent child in the womb what would make anyone even imagine they care about anything in thier life otherwise?


27 posted on 06/06/2011 12:17:40 PM PDT by caww
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I dislike Romney because of his RINO politics, rather than his faith. By the standards of the article, a Catholic should not vote for a Baptist candidate. How would the author feel about a campaign against a Baptist candidate, telling Catholics to not vote for him due to incompatibilities between Baptist doctrine and Catholic doctrine?

There is a reason why the Founders put into the Constitution (Article 6) : "but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States".

28 posted on 06/06/2011 12:30:46 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Tupelo
There is NO religious qualification in the Constitution.

However, there is nothing in the Constitution which says that a person can't use religion to determine their vote. You make it sound it must be unconstitutional for a person to base a vote on such a standard.

Personally, I think that it would be foolish to disregard religion entirely. If a person has strong convictions about a belief structure, I'd like to know. It often gives insights into that person and his or her thought processes.

While many would not say that Mormonism should disqualify a candidate, just about all voters have a point beyond which it would be concluded that the belief system is just too weird and they could not vote for someone who holds to it. If not Mormonism, then maybe Islam or Scientology or Paganism or Druidism or atheism... I would hesitate to attack someone just because they have a different point of tolerance than I do.

29 posted on 06/06/2011 12:33:59 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Governor Romney, why would any conservative vote for the author of the beta version of ObamaCare?)
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To: PapaBear3625
Yes, but voters are free to cast their votes for any, many or no reason, in the privacy of the voting booth. How many votes did JFK get for his "good looks" versus Mr. Nixon in 1960? How many extra votes did Mr. Obama get in 2008 based on his skin color? The author wasn't suggesting a "religious test" but rather was telling us why he couldn't vote for Gov. Romney or any other Mormon.
30 posted on 06/06/2011 12:38:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (How do you starve an Obama supporter? Hide his food stamps under his work boots.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There are many reasons why mitt the twit should not be voted for and is a POS but his religion is not one of them. Those who would discount a true conservative candidate on the basis of their religion (even islam) don’t think much of the Constitution, religious freedom, or electing the best conservative choice. If you would exclude Romney by virtue of religious belief what about a Catholic or a Jew? Romney is no conservative and is not a good choice for that reason but maybe those who would discount any candidate based on religious belief should move for a coalition with the muzzies since they also make religious belief a primary focus of their political activities. At least they would agree with the concept if not your religious beliefs.


31 posted on 06/06/2011 12:43:06 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: RJS1950

You do realize that I didn’t write this article, don’t you?


32 posted on 06/06/2011 12:48:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (How do you starve an Obama supporter? Hide his food stamps under his work boots.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Yep, there was a reason all right. At that time some of the states had religious tests for office. They did not want that at the federal level, so they added a provision restricting GOVERNMENT. Said provision is not binding on the citizenry whatsoever. Americans have the right to base their votes upon any grounds whatsoever. Religious conviction has to be among the most common grounds for voting throughout our history. Show me a man whose religious beliefs (or lack thereof) don’t inform his voting at some level and I will show you a person who isn’t all that serious about his faith.

I would never ever vote for Rommney because of his liberal record. However, if he had a long consistent conservative record, I would be in a real quandry. My first loyalty is to Christ and the gospel of His grace. I don’t want to cast a vote that betrays my most deeply held convictions. I will not do anything that might contribute to the further norming of what I believe, and what my church teaches, is a false gospel that damns souls to hell. There can be no doubt that Mormonism would get a real shot in the arm if he were elected. I would have to pray and think hard about voting to support that.

I have Mormon friends, even a few Mormon relatives. I am not anti-Mormon. I am, however, anti-false gospel. I don’t want to contribute to anything that extends the Mormon reach and influence. This life is but a vapor. The eternal destiny of men’s souls is infinitely more important than any earthly considerations.

Why is it that Mitt can practice his religion freely (and legitimately!), but Christians who, as a matter of conscience, cannot support him are bigots if they practice theirs?


33 posted on 06/06/2011 12:53:49 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: CommerceComet
all voters have a point beyond which it would be concluded that the belief system is just too weird and they could not vote for someone who holds to it.

I would agree to that statement. Romney's held beliefs would fall into the "weird", and I would add bizarre to say the least. They closely mirror New Agers and Scientology hocus pocus as well... Which would lead one to conclude his ability to make rightful judgments concerning our national best interest isn't in a favorable place. When one believes they are "chosen" to restore the earth for an invasion from the outer planetary system, well one would even more than question where their head is at if they cannot discern none-sense as clear as that.

The problem comes from those who do not look into what a candidates religious beliefs are really about...and just accept that as different is not enough...for everyones religious beliefs, as well as those who have none, affects how they make judgement calls.

Obama's distancing himself from Wright did not change how he determines the route he is taking this country in, rather it clearly shows his indoctrination under Wright plays out in Obama's decision making.

34 posted on 06/06/2011 12:54:25 PM PDT by caww
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To: ansel12
I know that something is wrong with his mind, he is driven and rigid in persona, but is internally unstable and disconnected from everything.

He reminds me of the Mancherian Candidate, programmed to the hilt. Somewhere along his indoctrination he sacrificed his ability for independant critical thinking. He looks and sounds like those pre-programmed, which is very different than those who are simply being scripted in their presentations.

35 posted on 06/06/2011 1:02:59 PM PDT by caww
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To: Tupelo

if you are looking for a bigot or a hypocrite, maybe you should check your mirror. There just might be one hiding there
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Is this what you wanted one of us to say to you ???

It seems you were are the only one who has been “looking for a bigot”

as for me I just stumbled over a hypocrite

No looking was involved


36 posted on 06/06/2011 1:29:03 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Read posts 2,3, and 4, and you have my commments already posted, so we needn’t use up additional bandwidth.

OS


37 posted on 06/06/2011 1:41:00 PM PDT by Old Student
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To: Tupelo

Take a breather, your ignorance of the Constitution is showing.

What an individual does or does not do based on their religious convictions does not make one a bigot. Nor does it usurp the legal qualifications.

It’s called freedom and Utah exercised that to the tune of a 90% vote for Romney in the 2008 Utah primary.

So getting your knickers in a knot over some evangelicals doing the very thing mormons did in 2008 is hypocritical.

Or is it that too difficult of a concept for the mormons to comprehend?


38 posted on 06/06/2011 1:55:23 PM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: Servant of the Cross
"A Vote for Romney Is a Vote for an unrepentant abortionist/statist lying political whore!" (edits mine)

I would add "gay agenda loving". His religion doesn't matter to me. His blatant hypocrisy does. Mormons do not support "gay marriage", or abortion on demand. Romney did.

39 posted on 06/06/2011 1:56:19 PM PDT by jimt
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To: PapaBear3625

I agree that a religious test shouldn’t be used by the government as a qualification. However, private citizens can certainly examine everything about a candidate, including their religious beliefs, to get a better understanding of the candidate’s values, allegiances, etc.

How would you feel if a scientologist ran for president? I certainly wouldn’t want them disqualified to run, but I would definately question the ability of the candidate to make critical decisions if they could believe something so phony.


40 posted on 06/06/2011 2:11:33 PM PDT by Turtlepower
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