[Iscool]

Furthermore, by saying made of a woman two errors are destroyed, namely, that of Nestorious saying that Christ did not take His body of the Virgin but of the heavens and that He passed through the Blessed Virgin as through a corridor or channel. But this is false, for if it were true, He would not, as the Apostle says, have been made of a woman. By the preposition “of” [ex] the material cause is denoted. Likewise, the error of Nestorious saying that the Blessed Virgin is not the mother of the Son of God but of the son of a man.

The way the story goes is that Nestorius said Mary was not the Mother of God...NOT that Mary was not the Mother of the Son of God...In fact, Nestorius knew that Jesus was the Son of God and that Mary was his mother...

I'm thinking Aquinas is embellishing the story some...And for more proof,,,

Moreover, although he might have said “born of a woman,” he distinctly says made, and not “born.”[1] Indeed, for something to be born it must not only be produced of a principle conjoined to it but be made from a principle separate from it. Thus a wooden chest is made by an artisan, but fruit is born from a tree.

Might have said 'born of woman'??? Where would Aquinas get this from??? Even so, Nestorius says 'made of woman'??? What's that mean??? That Mary drew a picture of Jesus and called the picture her son??? How does a woman 'make' a baby??? You ever heard that expression that a couple made a baby???

I think Aquinas is trying to start a fire just to see if it will burn...

Gack!Are you really suggesting that hanging out in Antioch guarantees they knew truth? This is like say because I live in NY I must know the complete list of laws of the state of NY

I don't really say it's the same thing at all...It's Antioch where people were first called Christians...It's where exploding Christian activity took off from...

AND, since Nestorius was obviously a Christian, that's a great connection...

Show us Nestorian writings that links them to the Apostles like writings of Saint Ignatius, Justyn Martyr and others?

And how do we know that these Gentiles and Egyptians are telling us the truth??? Oh ya, because they told us so themselves...

Maybe the labels we give are man-made, but is the Church then man-made? No. It is Christ-made. Are all so-called churches Christ-made? Wouldn’t that mean all had been established in the first century? Is that the reality?

Jesus didn't establish a religious organization...Jesus established Christians who in turn are the church...

[papertyger]

Jesus didn't establish a religious organization...Jesus established Christians who in turn are the church...

Dude, read a bible once in a while.

I'm constantly amazed by the idiotic prattle that is directly contrary to scripture one can get away with by claiming ones own interpretation of scripture to be authoritative.

[stfassisi]

I gather you must be someone who denies the Trinity ,Iscool?

The only way you can agree with Nestorian heresy is to deny that Christ is the 2nd person in the Holy Trinity