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To: The Theophilus
I have no “blinders” on. I also know assuredly that Scripture does not contradict itself since it is the Word of God. As I understood your post, I read that you believe Satan has been bound in chains since they fell or since the flood. It brought the verse to my mind about the devil being a force we still must be aware of. Some people believe the verses in II Peter refer to a certain part of the fallen angels and it was with that in mind that I suggested that not ALL of them are chained.

Additional Scripture such as Satan in front of God concerning Job - though some think this may have been preflood - as well as him being called an “accuser of the brethren”. These sound to me that he is still active in this world. He is called the “Prince of the Power of the Air” as well as the “god of this world”. Jesus as well as the disciples did battle against demon possession.

All this, to me, does not sound as if Satan is bound in chains in darkness - at least not yet anyway.

436 posted on 05/22/2011 4:14:26 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums
As I understood your post, I read that you believe Satan has been bound in chains since they fell or since the flood.

Wow, I get an "F" in communications. I said nothing of the sort and in my volume-sized rambling rant I was specific about the binding taking place during the apostolic age of the Great Commission.

It brought the verse to my mind about the devil being a force we still must be aware of.

The passage in 1 Peter supports that opinion.

Some people believe the verses in II Peter refer to a certain part of the fallen angels and it was with that in mind that I suggested that not ALL of them are chained.

I didn't see that fine print in the Bible saying that the demon's mileage would vary. May I suggest that you make a special effort to realize that "deception" and "tempting" are different functions and that the ability to "deceive" the nations is what the binding has accomplished. Before the binding, the Gospel was not received by the nations, since the binding, the whole world has received the Gospel and many have repented and believed. The empirical evidence is bountiful testimony.

Additional Scripture such as Satan in front of God concerning Job ... Jesus as well as the disciples did battle against demon possession.

I concur that this is true, for these events all precede the outpouring of the Holy Spirit since Pentecost. When the Apostles went out to all of the world, they were given the power to bind, and in Acts we see numerous confirmations that they indeed did bind the spirits. In 16:16-19 Paul and Silas cast out the spirit of divination within the slave girl. Who has that ability of divination today? No one does because the spirits were bound in the age of the Apostles.

All this, to me, does not sound as if Satan is bound in chains in darkness - at least not yet anyway.

Your argument is not with me, but is with Peter and Jude who both testified under the Power of the Holy Spirit that the Devil and his minions are presently bound in chains of darkness. Revelation also concurs, but due to its heavy symbolism and wild disparities in interpretation, using a difficult text when we already have simpler texts isn't necessary.

530 posted on 05/22/2011 8:21:10 PM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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