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To: boatbums

i have listened to Camping many times and he does have a very good understanding that the OT is types and shadows and the NT is the fulfillment of the OT.
he does not accept sacred tradition for divine revelation and yes, he does hold to sola scriptura. these are just facts and anyone who has listened to his open forum show will agree.


305 posted on 05/21/2011 8:42:29 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
Well I have NEVER listened to his radio program, and I don't have to to know he may say he believes in sola scriptura but his teaching obviously proves he goes off on his own. He had to completely omit the very clear passage from Jesus where he said, "No man knows the day nor the hour.". So either the writers of the Gospels left off the phrase, "Except my prophet Harold Camping.", or he is making it up. I'm going with the making it up option. Ask yourself, if all the non-Catholics are sola scriptura, then how come only this guy knew the day and hour? How come NOBODY else joined in his fantasy?
311 posted on 05/21/2011 9:04:53 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
I apologize for breaking in here in your conversation with boatbums.

As one who believes in only one second coming, I agree with your opposition to the plural comings of the pretribs. But why the repeated denials on this thread of the use of the word “rapture?”

While I am opposed to the pretrib’s use of the word - they use it to distinguish their pretribulational coming from the one after the trib, never mind the fact that nowhere in scripture do we find the word “rapture” to distinguish this alleged pretrib event - yet, and despite the pretrib’s misapplication of the word, it is still Biblical. I’m sure you are aware that is the Latin for the Greek “harpazo,” the “caught up” of 1 Thess. 4:17.

It sounds as if you are denying the “caught up” of 1 Thess. 4:17, you are not are you? It is the pretrib “caught up” I am opposed to, I am not opposed to the use of the word when applied correctly as happening at the post-trib event.

318 posted on 05/21/2011 9:19:54 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
i have listened to Camping many times and he does have a very good understanding that the OT is types and shadows and the NT is the fulfillment of the OT. he does not accept sacred tradition for divine revelation and yes, he does hold to sola scriptura.

It appears that there is an attempt afoot to latch onto the term Sola Scriptura without actually bothering to understand what it means. Those who adhere to it use Scripture as the sole standard of proof of a belief, doctrine or tradition. Those beliefs, doctrines or traditions that fail to meet this solely Scriptural standard are not Biblical and are therefore in error and are not truly Christian.

So, let's return then to Harold Camping. Mr. Camping purported to know, via numerology apparently, that the Rapture was going to occur yesterday. Not only did he purport to know the day, he furthermore went into the hour.

Had Mr. Camping been an adherent of your much-derided Sola Scriptura, however, he would have been humbled and rebuked by the following Biblical passage, from Mark 13:32:

But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

So, had Mr. Camping actually "held to" Sola Scriptura as you claim, he never would have made such a fool of himself, again (this isn't the first time he's done this), and he wouldn't have given the mainstream media and the enemies of Christianity such a source of gleeful mockery, going on weeks now.

I note that you join in the mockery yourself. Careful of that which you mock. Harold Camping was and is a fool at a minimum and a false prophet at worst. Neither are held in regard by the Bible. But, neither are mockers and scoffers.

343 posted on 05/22/2011 6:19:48 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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