Okay, but you wrote "These are the things created [not programmed to appear!] 'in the twilight' between the first Sixth Day and the first Shabbat". So, where was the she-ass all this time since her creation and the moment when she was supposed to appear?Now who's being a literalist? ;-)
Are you saying God pre-created everything that is to appear, including the souls of all humans who have lived or will live? Now, that (the pre-existence of the souls) is mostly definitely not an Orthodox/Catholic belief.
Maybe not, but I bet it ain't as bad as Biblical literalism!!!!!
Before iron they used bronze and before bronze they used sheet rocks or wet wood, or tongs made of wooden spoons filled with rocks, etc. Improvise, and overcome.
::Salutes:: Yes sir, Gunny Highway! ;-)
Yes, interesting exchange. I don't think he is calling your an ignoramus, CZ. To the contrary, I think he was impressed with your knowledge. But he also drew a line, namely that you as a Noachide have no business in judging who is orthodox and who is apostate. That is to be expected. You are simply not one of them, no matter how much you know.
Jews themselves label themselves as "Orthodox," "Reform," Conservative," "Reconstructionist," etc. I merely point out that "Orthodoxy" is the term used among 'Ashkenazim for the historical Judaism Proper that existed before the enlightenment, while Reform, Conservative, and Reconstructionist are part of that enlightenment. I do not define who a Jew is; that's done by Halakhah. Everybody born to a Jewish mother or who converts keHalakhah to Judaism is Jewish--period. I do wish he'd stop misinterpreting my position as that only Orthodox 'Ashkenazim are Torah Jews. "Orthodoxy" is merely the term 'Ashkeanzi Torah Jews have come to use for themselves.
It's just a culture, CZ. To a Greek, it doesn't matter if the story is true or not, it is part of their faith and it's good and necessary in their minds to give such stories their proper place, to use them as guides and for edification, whether factual or symbolic.
You see, for whatever reason, I simply am not capable of understanding that position. Why would G-d relate events that never happened without clearly marking them as such?
Greeks treat the "pillars" of the Faith as facts
The stories are my pillars, and I cannot help it. If the stories have no facticity, then what use are they? Why make them up or write them down? Because "primitive man" lacked the vocabulary for communicating abstract concepts and had to get all his ideas across by telling stories? I don't think so.
By the way, why have I become CZ in the last few posts to me?
I'm currently awaiting a very important phone call. While you and I and harmonium argue I'm undergoing a major life disruption.
Courtesy ping to harmonium simply because I mentioned him.
Yes sir, Gunny Highway! ;-) At least we watch the same movies. :)
I do not define who a Jew is; that's done by Halakhah...
I realize that. The way I read it, harmonium was saying you are educated but this is a peer issue and you are not among the peers.
You see, for whatever reason, I simply am not capable of understanding that position. Why would G-d relate events that never happened without clearly marking them as such?
Parables are educational examples. Clearly it is irrelevant if they are factual or not. It's the message they convey for the listeners to take home that matters, i.e. a homily.
By the way, why have I become CZ in the last few posts to me?
Because I am dyslexic. :) My apologies ZC.