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To: Natural Law; Lera
At the time of the Reformation the Church was a major land holder. In Henry VIII's England the Church owned nearly 1/3 of all land. Henry used the division with the Church as the excuse to seize the property to finance his excesses. In the process he executed over 78,000.

I found this old thread on Free Republic discussing that very thing: How Many Catholics Were Killed During Cromwell and Henry VIII In England?

It seems the learned consensus was nowhere near 78,000 Catholics were killed. Remember Henry was a Catholic until the Anne Boleyn hussy came into the picture. He was also very much against Luther and killed his share of Protestants in his day. I think the estimated 78,000 number just may be all the people that were executed regardless of religion. Many were clobbered due to crimes such as treason rather than religion. It was said that Bloody Mary (his Catholic daughter) killed more Protestants than all the Catholics killed by daddy or sister, Elizabeth.

I suppose these kinds of tit-for-tat arguments may never stop, but I think we can all agree that murder based upon religious choices should never be allowed again. Jesus told his disciples to shake the dust off their feet when they left towns inhospitable to the Gospel. I know he was appalled that so much violence was done by anyone naming Him.

499 posted on 05/15/2011 9:45:30 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums

Amen.

I was just reading Mark 6 , that very verse you mentioned.

Mar 6:7 And he called unto him the twelve, and began to send them forth by two and two; and gave them power over unclean spirits;
Mar 6:8 And commanded them that they should take nothing for their journey, save a staff only; no scrip, no bread, no money in their purse:
Mar 6:9 But be shod with sandals; and not put on two coats.
Mar 6:10 And he said unto them, In what place soever ye enter into an house, there abide till ye depart from that place.
Mar 6:11 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
Mar 6:12 And they went out, and preached that men should repent.


503 posted on 05/15/2011 10:04:37 PM PDT by Lera
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To: boatbums
You would be well advised to address the anti-catholic history of this nation before venturing back to medieval times

How can you justify the Know Nothings, the KKK the election of 1928 and in recent history the election of 1960 where rabid anti-Catholicism was overtly demonstrated by protestants .

Protestants need to deeply display shame for their past behavior in this nation before demonstrating unmitigated audacity in accusing other groups.

524 posted on 05/16/2011 6:11:55 AM PDT by bronx2 (while Jesus is the Alpha /Omega He has given us rituals which you reject to obtain the graces as to)
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To: boatbums
Why don't you look for how many Catholics died in Ireland in the 18th 19th and 20th century under the rule of the loving protestants.

Explain the current day Act of Secession, the Easter Sunday rebellion and the continuing antics of one Ian Paisley the Methodist minister in Northern Ireland.

Protestants would be well advised to focus on their reprobate behavior in regards to treatment of Catholics in the South where the KKK ruled and still has a strong presence.

Let us view the record of protestants in this nation and see what reprobate activities they orchestrated in our own times. This disgraceful record of anti-Catholicism in this nation should preclude them from ever raising the subject of Catholic intolerance towards protestants in foreign nation 500 years ago.

From reading the messages of some rabid anti-Catholics posters on this forum one wonders are they closet members of hate organizations? What say you ? What defense can you offer to justify the aforementioned events in this nation?

526 posted on 05/16/2011 6:33:29 AM PDT by bronx2 (while Jesus is the Alpha /Omega He has given us rituals which you reject to obtain the graces as to)
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To: boatbums
"It seems the learned consensus was nowhere near 78,000 Catholics were killed."

I'm not so sure how "learned" or objective that discussion was. Accounts published by Raphael Holinshed in London in 1577 put the number at only 72,000. William Harrison, a contemporary put the number much higher. Please tell me you are not going to try to rehabilitate Henry VIII to prove the superiority of Protestants?

548 posted on 05/16/2011 8:52:48 AM PDT by Natural Law
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