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To: boatbums
The burden of proof was on you to to refute the empirical evidence I offered in the past and your mention of this Barrett and his work no way approaches credible evidence to refute the 30,000 plus number. It appears to be rash judgment and presumptuous which allows one to assume they know the source of another's evidence

In this section of the rant it asserts "I think the problem is just the eagerness some have to just toss out an arbitrary number". Perhaps the arbitrary and capriciousness lies in another area one where "I think" types again need to exercise greater reflection before making apparent inane comments.

Again there is mention of this Barrett source as not being of empirical quality but my sources are not of this cite so your point is moot.

You state the "Some see it as a badge of honor that they separated from the hierarchy that perverted the true Christian faith" too many generalization lacking in dis-positive evidence so that statement is rendered worthless although on a witness stand during cross examination I would make it the longest day of in the life of one who uttered such a simplistic thought.

Your anecdotal statements supporting seemingly nonexistent differences between christian denominations is without any merit for a multitude of reasons. Just look at the rants on this forum who take exception to that claim on a daily basis. Your chums would not support this assertion.

By defining a denomination as, an ecclesial body that retains an autonomous jurisdiction, one comes close to a reasoned response and I agree with the definition. It is a logical approach and one that my source uses. But then you make an absurd statement of asking the question of the basic tenants of the Christian faith. To Catholics it would be the Nicene creed but what of the non Catholic ones who claim to Christians. That is where the problem arises. Judging from the ones who inhabit this forum you're likely to end up believing in space cadets or some other outrageous doctrine as being the foundation of their alleged christian beliefs.

The creation of these new ecclesial entities is the 'Curse of Protestantism" and it appears to be a never ending curse . This is supported by empirical evidence and it was well over 30,000 cults the last time I looked over three years ago. Just this weekend the Presbyterians have allowed Gay ordination and thus more fissures will appear. Who knows how that number has accreted.

Your simplistic statement that the Church of Jesus Christ is across denominational lines is the food for many hotly contested debates on this forum.You have supporters on this forum who are ashamed to divulge their alleged christian affiliation. How does one account for them?

Finally, the next time I assert this 30,000 plus number as the Curse of Protestantism, please offer proper refutation not assuming to know the genesis of my evidence.

481 posted on 05/15/2011 4:33:30 PM PDT by bronx2 (while Jesus is the Alpha /Omega He has given us rituals which you reject to obtain the graces as to)
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To: bronx2

Well, counselor, by all means post your irrefutable source for this “empirical evidence”. I have yet to see it. I have no burden of proof at all since I was not the one to state in the beginning that there were 30,000 Protestant factions. I posted a probable source for such a statement and also a very well stated refutation to it. It WAS read, right?


484 posted on 05/15/2011 4:53:07 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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