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To: jtal
And most Catholics do not know Christ in a salvific way Don't you think that is rather presumptuous on your part?

No , Catholics believe that they are damned by their sin..not that they are saved by Christ..

I do not think God will ask what the "propers" are
The context was liturgy, specifically Catholic liturgy. I am guessing that how you worship God, whatever your theology, is important to you.

Again God is not going to ask you what the proper is.. He is going to ask why He should admit you into heaven.. What would you as a catholic say?

105 posted on 04/20/2011 2:04:21 PM PDT by RnMomof7 ( "But your iniquities have separated you from your God; your sins have hidden His face from you,)
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To: RnMomof7
No , Catholics believe that they are damned by their sin..not that they are saved by Christ..

The two are not mutually exclusive.

I will grant you that it is much nicer to believe that your actions have no consequences. It is no surprise that that message sells so much better than the truth.

107 posted on 04/20/2011 2:09:40 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: RnMomof7
Catholics believe that they are damned by their sin..not that they are saved by Christ.

And out of a 1.1 billion Catholics, you've personally surveyed how many to come up with that conclusion?

He is going to ask why He should admit you into heaven.

Where is that in the Bible?

108 posted on 04/20/2011 2:10:30 PM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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To: RnMomof7
No , Catholics believe that they are damned by their sin..not that they are saved by Christ..

OK I guess I'll take your word for it. You seem to be the expert on what Catholics believe.

He is going to ask why He should admit you into heaven..

I don't expect my salvation to depend on the outcome of a Divine interview. It should be pretty clear to God what my fate is by then, regardless of any canned answer I might have at the ready.

This is why I usually have the good sense to avoid these open religious threads. It's damn near impossible to have any kind of constructive discussion.

110 posted on 04/20/2011 2:12:27 PM PDT by jtal
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To: RnMomof7
Again God is not going to ask you what the proper is.. He is going to ask why He should admit you into heaven.. What would you as a catholic say?

Can you please supply the Scripture for that? What chapter and verse tells us that we need to answer questions to get into Heaven?

126 posted on 04/20/2011 3:19:14 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory; and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: RnMomof7
No , Catholics believe that they are damned by their sin..not that they are saved by Christ..

As opposed to the true belief that you folks can say "the sinners prayer" and go about happily sinning the rest of your life with no repercussions.

At least try to pretend you have some inteleldctual understanding of the Catholic doctrine

173 posted on 04/20/2011 6:58:55 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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