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1 posted on 04/17/2011 8:16:04 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Full-length negative photograph of the Shroud of Turin.
2 posted on 04/17/2011 8:16:44 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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As another poster said, and I am shamelessly stealing, “Either you have faith or you don’t.”


3 posted on 04/17/2011 8:17:14 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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Who needs “physical evidence” when you have FAITH?

If the Bible says He did, that is plenty good enough for me.

Much better to live your life as though there is a God and be wrong, than to live your life as though there is no God and be wrong..........


5 posted on 04/17/2011 8:23:30 PM PDT by NWFLConservative (Fight Like a Girl!!...............Saracuda in 2012)
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No need for an of this. Just read the brilliant analysis provided by Benedict XVI (sometimes called a theological Einstein) in his Book. Volume II Jesus of Nazareth -Holy Week on the chapter on the Resurrection. The best analysis ever!!!! Nothing more is needed.


6 posted on 04/17/2011 8:23:58 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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There is more evidence of the birth, life, death, burial & resurrection of Jesus than any event in ancient history.

As for the Shroud. I believe it is His.


7 posted on 04/17/2011 8:24:44 PM PDT by rae4palin (GAME ON!!!)
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They draw that conclusion from textual evidence in the Bible, however, rather than from the odd assortment of relics parading as physical evidence

What an idiotic argument. By that standard, we have no evidence Julius Caesar or Caligula ever lived.

The existence of Christ is about as well documented as can be expected. Whether he was indeed the Son of God is a question that science or history cannot answer, of course.

11 posted on 04/17/2011 8:45:56 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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Yep - I’ve read the eye witness accounts.


15 posted on 04/17/2011 8:49:13 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Wanna learn humility? Become a Pittsburgh Pirates fan!)
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Laughable. They “debunk” claims that aren’t made, ignore the feature of the Dead Sea Scrolls which proves Jesus was the Christ (their version of the Old Testament is the same that we have, and therefore proves that dozens of detailed predictions about Him were made hundreds of years of years before his birth) and as far as the Shroud of Turin goes, take as undisputed fact things that are in dispute. Then, to close the article up, they take the Histry/Discovery Channel approach and find the most liberal Bible scholar they can get ahold of to say “Jesus was what I think he was, not what the Bible and contemporary documents say he was. Neener, neener, neener.”

Lord, please just come back and end the stupidity.


17 posted on 04/17/2011 9:05:39 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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You have to admit Jesus Christ’s birth is way better documented than Obama’s.


18 posted on 04/17/2011 9:05:45 PM PDT by JHL
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our current messiah doesn’t have a birth certificate either.


19 posted on 04/17/2011 9:09:00 PM PDT by oldbill
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“An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall be no sign given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonah; for as Jonah was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”

Matthew 12: 39-40


22 posted on 04/17/2011 9:22:22 PM PDT by Jedidah
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Matthew 24 is an interesting read. Jesus predicted the temple would be destroyed, which did happen. The rest of Matthew 24 has still not happened. So, what? - did the author just write one fulfilled prophecy? No, I believe the temple had not been destroyed yet. Just as Jesus predicted the destruction of the temple, which was definitely destroyed in 70 AD, the rest will come pass.


24 posted on 04/17/2011 9:29:58 PM PDT by Flying right
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Who can deny the Shroud of Turin?

If that is not enough there is plenty of moral historical evidence for Christ:

Testimony of the Evangelists - by Simon Greenleaf

27 posted on 04/17/2011 10:05:23 PM PDT by GonzoII (Quia tu es, Deus, fortitudo mea...Quare tristis es anima mea?)
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I think every single year during Easter season there’s an article on this issue. Usually in Time or Newsweek, whose existences—either physical or virtual—are questionable.


28 posted on 04/17/2011 10:05:23 PM PDT by paudio (The differences between Clinton and 0bama? About a dozen of former Democratic Congressmen.)
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Ah, Easter and Christmas. The season for journalists to poke a stick in the eye of Christians everywhere just for the hell of it.

Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires; and will turn away their ears from the truth, and will turn aside to myths.

But you, be sober in all things, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry. For I am already being poured out as a drink offering, and the time of my departure is at hand. I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith.

2 Timothy 4:2-4:7

29 posted on 04/17/2011 11:04:16 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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Thomas had a similar problem. He faced it.


30 posted on 04/17/2011 11:12:41 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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I place dis/non-believers in the same grouping as those who think Pete Rose should not be in the Hall of Fame.


31 posted on 04/18/2011 4:31:59 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito Ergo Conservitus.)
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Did Hannibal exist?
32 posted on 04/18/2011 4:41:38 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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What “physical evidence” is there ever going to be for a person who lived in antiquity other than historical accounts? And the historical accounts of Jesus are quite persuasive. Archeology has proved much of the detail of the Gospels, particularly Luke who was a historian, writing history. And the Josephus account is not a fraud. There have been accusations that certain words were added to the Testimonium Flavianum, which may very well be true. But few if any serious scholars believe the entire passage was fabricated. And if you take out the disputed words Josephus still confirms the life of Jesus, James and John the Baptist. While Faith is essential, biblical Faith is not “blind faith” or a “leap of faith”. There is certainly a rational component of faith, if for no other reason than that there is so much logical evidence as to the truth of the Gospels. There is more hard evidence to support the life, death and resurrection of Jesus than any other event in antiquity.
33 posted on 04/18/2011 5:02:57 AM PDT by circlecity
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Documentation clearer than barry´s....


36 posted on 04/18/2011 9:20:55 AM PDT by onedoug (If)
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