I would bring up the point that the Bible itself answers the question.
Mary herself admitted in Luke she needed a savior. Further no one (including Mary) comes to the Father but through Jesus Christ.
For ALL (including Mary) have fallen short of the glory of God.
Only Christ lived a perfect, sinless life - which is why when we believe in Him (alone) his perfect obedient life is imputed to us as righteousness. There is no other person that lived a perfect sinless life. And if there was, there would be another name under heaven we could believe in to be saved.
The prphecies in the Bible regarding ‘the seed of the woman’ from Genesis on, never said the woman would be sinless and live a sinless, perfect life. It said she would be a virgin. Meaning the birth of the savior would be a miracle God brings about supernaturally.
Genesis never says this. Isaiah never says the virgin is sinless and lives a perfect life. None of the New Testament every shows Mary in a light that she was also sinless and was living a perfect sinless life. The fact she and Joseph were angry at the young Jesus forbeing in the temple for days without them knowing it, shows Mary was not perfect and sinless - she would have not been angry at Jesus because she would have known exactly where he was because she would have been sinless and perfect and understood this being that way.
I love the real, biblical Mary. Not the artificially enhanced because man think it must be so, even though the bible doesn’t say it, Mary.
Good point about the temple! But when one doesn’t take God’s Word as THE Final Authority - even common sense escapes them.
I would bring up the point that the Bible itself answers the question.... The fact she and Joseph were angry at the young Jesus forbeing in the temple for days without them knowing it, shows Mary was not perfect and sinless ...(1) If, in fact, we look to the Bible for answers, "angry" is not in the Bible. 'Being angry' is an extra-scriptural interpretation of this passage. I'll grant you 'astonished' and 'anxious' (NIV), but not angry.
(2) For argument's sake, even if 'angry,' what makes anger per se a sin? Was not Jesus 'angry' -- in the extra-biblical sense, of course -- when he 'cleansed the temple'? If so, can only divine persons be 'angry'?
... she would have known exactly where he was because she would have been sinless and perfect and understood this being that way
3) I'm curious about equating sinlessness and omniscience. Is ignorance sinful?
God bless.