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To: terycarl
your entire posting was nonsense..

So why didn't you ignore it and move on? Did you see a 'a must read' attached to it?

why would God allow a soiled container to hold the body of His son?????think about it

Did you ever thing about how HE took everyone's sins on HIM - and he was so badly marred He was unrecognizable? The replica of Jesus on the cross that the vatican/rcc still have him on - is a poor representation of what He actually looked like.

As far as a soiled container - everyone is/was born with the sin nature. You think that sin nature rubs off or something? Jesus is The Word and He ALWAYS was - He manifested Himself as man. Are you trying to understand how that is done? You can't - that's where faith comes in and that's why we are told to lean not unto our own understanding. He told us in the OT - His plans. We don't question the supernatural, we don't question God and His Ways - we believe them. His Ways are higher than ours.

But some are determined to put man's spin on the supernatural because of pride - in spite of being told to not lean unto our own understanding - they do it anyhow. They don't take God and His Word serious. Along with when Jesus said...just believe. His Words of .."Depart from Me, I never knew you" don't see to jar some out of their stupor - since we know Him through His Word - the Word that they don't take serious and as the Final Authority.

So Mary was not sinless, didn't have to be, the requirements were the lineage and a virgin. If there was one sinless on earth, Jesus didn't have to come - that person would be the sacrificial lamb. With God, EVERYTHING is precise - NOTHING is haphazard. From the stars, the moon, the sun to everything He made - fish, animals, our trees, all our food to every step Jesus took while on earth to every Scripture in His Word. He's the Alpha and Omega - He knows the end from the beginning. He is the great "I AM" and man still questions His Word and/or does not take His Word as The Final Authority. And some are trying to prove that Mary was sinless - despite what "I AM" says.

Bottom line - there is nothing to think about - He told us.
209 posted on 04/14/2011 10:10:09 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name
Did you ever thing about how HE took everyone's sins on HIM - and he was so badly marred He was unrecognizable? The replica of Jesus on the cross that the vatican/rcc still have him on - is a poor representation of what He actually looked like.

How do you know? What makes you an expert? What are your sources for this prattling? Let's see what Scripture actually says.

Matthew 27: 50 30 But Jesus cried out again in a loud voice, and gave up his spirit. 51 And behold, the veil of the sanctuary was torn in two from top to bottom. 31 The earth quaked, rocks were split, 52 tombs were opened, and the bodies of many saints who had fallen asleep were raised. 53 And coming forth from their tombs after his resurrection, they entered the holy city and appeared to many. 54 32 The centurion and the men with him who were keeping watch over Jesus feared greatly when they saw the earthquake and all that was happening, and they said, "Truly, this was the Son of God!" 55 There were many women there, looking on from a distance, 33 who had followed Jesus from Galilee, ministering to him. 56 Among them were Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of James and Joseph, and the mother of the sons of Zebedee.

Nothing about Jesus being unrecognizable here. Let's move on.

Mark 15: 33 At noon darkness came over the whole land until three in the afternoon. 34 And at three o'clock Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani?" 14 which is translated, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" 35 15 Some of the bystanders who heard it said, "Look, he is calling Elijah." 36 One of them ran, soaked a sponge with wine, put it on a reed, and gave it to him to drink, saying, "Wait, let us see if Elijah comes to take him down." 37 Jesus gave a loud cry and breathed his last. 38 16 The veil of the sanctuary was torn in two from top to bottom. 39 17 When the centurion who stood facing him saw how he breathed his last he said, "Truly this man was the Son of God!" 40 18 There were also women looking on from a distance. Among them were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of the younger James and of Joses, and Salome. 41 These women had followed him when he was in Galilee and ministered to him. There were also many other women who had come up with him to Jerusalem.

These don't say unrecognizable. Let us move on.

Luke 23: 38 Above him there was an inscription that read, "This is the King of the Jews." 39 6 Now one of the criminals hanging there reviled Jesus, saying, "Are you not the Messiah? Save yourself and us." 40 The other, however, rebuking him, said in reply, "Have you no fear of God, for you are subject to the same condemnation? 41 And indeed, we have been condemned justly, for the sentence we received corresponds to our crimes, but this man has done nothing criminal." 42 Then he said, "Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom." 43 He replied to him, "Amen, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise." 44 7 It was now about noon and darkness came over the whole land until three in the afternoon 45 because of an eclipse of the sun. Then the veil of the temple was torn down the middle. 46 Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Father, into your hands I commend my spirit"; and when he had said this he breathed his last. 47 The centurion who witnessed what had happened glorified God and said, "This man was innocent 8 beyond doubt." 48 When all the people who had gathered for this spectacle saw what had happened, they returned home beating their breasts; 49 but all his acquaintances stood at a distance, including the women who had followed him from Galilee and saw these events.

Even the criminals recognized Jesus.

John 19: 25 10 Standing by the cross of Jesus were his mother and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary of Magdala. 26 When Jesus saw his mother 11 and the disciple there whom he loved, he said to his mother, "Woman, behold, your son." 27 Then he said to the disciple, "Behold, your mother." And from that hour the disciple took her into his home. 28 After this, aware that everything was now finished, in order that the scripture might be fulfilled, 12 Jesus said, "I thirst." 29 There was a vessel filled with common wine. 13 So they put a sponge soaked in wine on a sprig of hyssop and put it up to his mouth. 30 14 When Jesus had taken the wine, he said, "It is finished." And bowing his head, he handed over the spirit. 31 Now since it was preparation day, in order that the bodies might not remain on the cross on the sabbath, for the sabbath day of that week was a solemn one, the Jews asked Pilate that their legs be broken and they be taken down. 32 So the soldiers came and broke the legs of the first and then of the other one who was crucified with Jesus. 33 But when they came to Jesus and saw that he was already dead, they did not break his legs, 34 15 but one soldier thrust his lance into his side, and immediately blood and water flowed out. 35 An eyewitness has testified, and his testimony is true; he knows 16 that he is speaking the truth, so that you also may (come to) believe. 36 For this happened so that the scripture passage might be fulfilled: "Not a bone of it will be broken." 37 And again another passage says: "They will look upon him whom they have pierced."

Nobody had any problem recognizing Jesus.

But some are determined to put man's spin on the supernatural because of pride - in spite of being told to not lean unto our own understanding - they do it anyhow. They don't take God and His Word serious. Along with when Jesus said...just believe. His Words of .."Depart from Me, I never knew you" don't see to jar some out of their stupor - since we know Him through His Word - the Word that they don't take serious and as the Final Authority.

Yup, and I think that I have quite adequately shown from Scripture just who is spinning and whose pride prevents them from understanding Scripture and leads them to make asinine statements which are not found in Scripture, but reside only in their own hearts.

245 posted on 04/15/2011 4:59:56 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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