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To: verdugo
I find it odd the you suggest yielding to the world the judgment as to where Christ's Church inheres. Our Lord reminded us that the world hates Him, and thus will hate His followers. It seems likely then that the world might seek to mislead those trying to follow Him whom the world hates.

Of course, perhaps by "world" you mean "Western Europe", not "κόσμος". It seems to me that in more easterly parts the phrase "One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church" has always referred to what is now commonly called "the Orthodox Church".

If you chose to reply, I will not, at least not until after the Great and Holy Pascha.

May you have a blessed Feast of the Resurrection, however you keep it.

127 posted on 04/15/2011 5:43:53 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: The_Reader_David
At what point did the Eastern Orthodox begin calling themselves Catholic? Did they inform the the Eastern Rite Catholics? What confusion! Reminds me of the cat who fell asleep and dreamed that he was a man dreaming that he was a cat, and when he awoke, he didn't know whether he was a cat or a man.

The "Orthodox" get a free pass here on FR since no one here knows the real "doctrines" (few), and the fact that they are just 10 divided churches, and basically the Russian Orthodox are like 70% of the Eastern Orthodox. Yet, only 2% of the Russian Orthodox practice the religion. I don't blame them for leaving, as the Russian Orthodox Church is the lap dog of the KGB. All of that, yet some Orthodox say that the Eastern Orthodox are the one (though they are 10 separate churches), Catholic, church? Not even they believe that!

The 10 SCHISMATIC Eastern Orthodox churches:

(30 Days Magazine 1992)

Patriachate of Russian (Russian Orthodox) - 85 million

Patriachate of Romania - 17 million

Patriachate of Greece - 9.025 million

Patriachate of Serbia- 8 million

Patriachate of Bulgaria - 8 million

Patriachate of Constantinople - 3.5 million

4 other Patriachates together - 2.36 million

128 posted on 04/15/2011 7:51:17 PM PDT by verdugo ("You can't lie, even to save the World")
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To: The_Reader_David; WPaCon
At what point did the Eastern Orthodox begin calling themselves Catholic? Did they inform the the Eastern Rite Catholics? What confusion! Reminds me of the cat who fell asleep and dreamed that he was a man dreaming that he was a cat, and when he awoke, he didn't know whether he was a cat or a man.

The "Orthodox" get a free pass here on FR since no one here knows the real "doctrines" (few), and the fact that they are just 10 divided churches, and basically the Russian Orthodox are like 70% of the Eastern Orthodox. Yet, only 2% of the Russian Orthodox practice the religion. I don't blame them for leaving, as the Russian Orthodox Church is the lap dog of the KGB. All of that, yet some Orthodox say that the Eastern Orthodox are the one (though they are 10 separate churches), Catholic, church? Not even they believe that!

The 10 SCHISMATIC Eastern Orthodox churches:

(30 Days Magazine 1992)

Patriachate of Russian (Russian Orthodox) - 85 million

Patriachate of Romania - 17 million

Patriachate of Greece - 9.025 million

Patriachate of Serbia- 8 million

Patriachate of Bulgaria - 8 million

Patriachate of Constantinople - 3.5 million

4 other Patriachates together - 2.36 million

129 posted on 04/15/2011 7:51:56 PM PDT by verdugo ("You can't lie, even to save the World")
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