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To: presently no screen name
The God is one and Luther is his prophet, is that what you are saying? Might as well bring Gutenberg into the process. Before the invention of the printing press, there was no way that enough Bibles could have been produced to get them into the hands of the people. You can say that the timing was providential. Still, it still required the people to be tutored.

You say by the Holy Spirit, and in that I agree with you, as does the pope, meditation on the Bible is unlike the reading of any other book. Unfortunately, Luther and the Reformers did not leave matters to the individuals but like Catholics employed the power of the state to compel believers, if only because of the disorder that followed the overthrown of the existing religious authority. You speak of heresy: well heresies multiplied during the reformation.

2,726 posted on 04/23/2011 9:58:52 AM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: RobbyS
Before the invention of the printing press, there was no way that enough Bibles could have been produced to get them into the hands of the people. You can say that the timing was providential.

You can say that. Why did the hand of Providence favor Martin Luther over the by far and away more dominant Catholic Church of the era, though? Were they allergic to Gutenberg printing presses or something?

One might get the impression that Luther wanted to get the Word out, and the Catholic Church did not.

2,727 posted on 04/23/2011 10:03:48 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RobbyS
You say by the Holy Spirit, and in that I agree with you, as does the pope

The pope can say what he wants - their fruit show otherwise. It's just like voters believing barry - they lacked knowledge of the truth and believed the lie. The Holy Spirit doesn't NOT go against His own Word and saying the pope is being led by the Spirit is laughable besides being heresy.

Attaching the Spirit of God to man made teachings while those teachings OPPOSE His Own Word is not wise. What part of the unpardonable sin of grieving the Holy Spirit don't you get whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come"?

Would I be speaking 'for' you or 'against' you - if I said 'you' said something when you never did; in fact you said the opposite. Who would I fool but the only ones who never knew you said the exact opposite from the beginning - those with a lack of knowledge are the only ones who would be fooled. And I'd be speaking against you and spreading lies about you to fool others for my own agenda. You need to put on your thinking cap before mimicking what your church says about the pope being led by the Holy Spirit. And now that you've been given that knowledge, you are responsible for it - like everyone of us is responsible, individually, to seek Truth and not be led/swayed by doctrines of man.

God's Word is Holy Spirit Inspired. The catechism and the RC man made teachings/traditions are NOT. Don't assign the Holy Spirit to them in any way.

God's Word is THE FINAL AUTHORITY and Our Constitution is the Law of our Land.

And it's the same mindset who opposes them and they are being led by evil, not good. And it's not rocket science to understand that.
2,728 posted on 04/23/2011 11:20:08 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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