[RnMomof7]

*It's a mystery*, *We just have to accept it by faith*, *Well, the meaning is just so philosophical and esoteric that it's too subtle to be really explained (to you ignorant, unread morons) adequately for the average person. Only the specially educated clergy has the adequate brainwashing education to understand deep mysteries like this so you just have to take their word for it, even if it contradicts someone else's word for it.*, or some such excuse.

And yet these same people deny Sola Fide ..amazing is it not?

[RobbyS]

Martin Luther put off the garb of a monk and put on that of a college professor, a professor of Holy Scripture. No why do you think he did that? But while we are speaking of the Eucharist, its was over this most holy event that the Reformers divided. So we have a clash between Luther and Zwingli at Marburg. “Where two are gathered...” Well, the two witnesses demanded by the Law did not appear on that occasion.
It is a ngreat irony that among the Reformers the most strongly opposed to Rome was Calvin, who did not quibble over small matters like bishops as he made clear in his contacts with Cranmer and the Poles, who would have celebrated the Eucharist every Sunday if matters had been left to him alone, was also not far in doctrine from Catholics and Orthodox on the Real Presence. Except that he would not have Our Lord tainted by then physical but would have had the faithful raised in spirit to the heavenly court to receive him. Now, of course, the Zwinglians dominate and “remember” the Last Supper more or less as we remember the 2nd of July, 1776, that is, as a long ago then rather than the eternal Now.