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To: presently no screen name
Catholics prefer 'reasoning' to faith.

That statement could be made only by someone who has absolutely no idea whatsoever about Catholic thought.

We do prefer meaningful discourse to hate-filled babble. That is true. but it is also not related to what you said, except in this.

I note that you STILL have not answered my question about how we can love our neighbor if we give all our love to God.

That question is not about 'faith'. It is about meaningful discourse as opposed to hate-filled babble. It is also, simply, wondering what you meant when you cited those verses,because they APPEAR to contain a contradiction.

Good works are a result of salvation, not the cause (Ephesians 2:8-10).
Catholics are taught their filthy rags (works) are needed for salvation.

Pay attention please: If good works are a sign of faith,then the absence of good works is a sign of a lack of faith. If faith is the gift which opens the door to salvation, then the absence of good works would suggest that the door was not opened for the person in whom good works were absent.

If you ever troubled yourself to study Catholic theology (I recommend the Summa) you would know that it is NOT TRUE, in any simple sense, that good works cause salvation. But that would interfere with the ignorant trashing of what you think we teach but we do not in fact teach, and the trashing is, evidently, more rewarding than truth.

Catholics can't handle we who are 'in Christ' are blessed, blessed, blessed' - they call it pride. LOL! More of 'their reasoning'. I am holy, I am blameless in God's sight because of JESUS!

Except for "they call it pride", that is catholic teaching. we read Ephesians (and Galatians, Romans, and Philippians also.)

Many do not know what we teach. Any good work which others might think that I did, Catholics believe that God did in me.

The skeptic Pope said, "A little learning is a dangerous thing." One of the dangers is that evidently very many people dip their toes in a few books and think they know Catholic teaching well enough to condemn it. And when we Catholics read their assaults we shake our heads at all the energy wasted on what we do not teach or believe.

One virtue of reason, which is by no means supreme, is that it helps us to avoid breaking the commandment about false witness. You have written things about us that are not true.I don't think you intended to utter falsehoods, not at all. But, reason tells us, that intended or unintended, falsehood is always destructive. I cannot think that anyone who enjoyed the love of God would choose to cause needless destruction. I would think a true son of truth would grieve to learn that he (or she) had said what was not true. Reason would help prevent that occasion of grief.

2,090 posted on 04/19/2011 5:41:03 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg

We do prefer meaningful discourse to hate-filled babble.


Perhaps that is still true, for you.

I hope so. I’m beginning to wonder.

It has clearly NOT been true for a good number of RC’s on FR for more than 10 years.


2,093 posted on 04/19/2011 5:48:50 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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