[Iscool]

“Marian apparitions in Medjugorje “

Anytime I see this treated as an approved apparition I have doubts about the groups loyalty to the magesterium. It has been condemned by the Bishop who is the only one who can give approval that an apparition is indeed supernatural and is not contradictory to the Catholic faith.

It seems that most every time you guys state a Catholic position, it is only a small portion of the actual position...Why is that???

As we saw in the 1998 Vatican CDF statement on Medjugorje, the present local bishop's personal stance against Medjugorje is not the official position of the Church, and therefore it is most legitimate for a member of the Church to have personal belief in Medjugorje's authenticity until the Church completes its final evaluation. This permission is granted by the authoritative teaching of the Holy See and the former Yugoslavian Bishops' 1991 statement. This permission to personally believe in Medjugorje would of course include any of the Franciscan priests in Medjugorje who choose to give their own personal assent to the apparitions.

[campaignPete R-CT]

Mark Miraville’s position is not the Church’s position. He’s a guy from DeKalb, IL.

Bishop Zanic of Bosnia:
“Priests who canonically administer this parish of Medjugorje or those who come as visitors, are not authorised to express their private views contrary to the official position of the Church on the so-called “apparitions” and “messages”, during celebrations of the sacraments, neither during other common acts of piety, nor in the Catholic media.

4 - The Catholic faithful are not only free from any obligation to believe in the authenticity of the “apparitions” but they must also know that church pilgrimages are not allowed, whether official or private, individual or group, or from other parishes, if they presuppose the authenticity of the “apparitions” or if by undertaking them attempt to certify these “apparitions”.”

[lastchance]

That group would be wrong. You will find a lot of Catholics defending Medj. and they usually rely on a reading of Church statements on the matter in which they see what they want to see. Much like how people see Jesus on toast slices.

One big clue to the falseness of this apparation is how many times the Blessed Mother is alleged to appear. Also her message must be weighed against Scripture and Church teacing. On this basis her message misses the mark many times. An apparation can also be prudently judged by the fruit it produces. The fruit has been mixed but the glaring episodes of willfull disobedience and flagrant displays of personal ego do not speak well of Medj.

An investigation by the CDF commission does not stay the finding of the Bishop. The Bishop has stated many times that there is nothing supernatural happening.

It is unusual for the CDF to take this step. I think is perhaps because despite the Bishop’s statement people continue to believe in the apparation.

[lastchance]

How do you get a whole section like that to link?