THAT has absolutely nothing to do with the gobbledegook that supposedly passes for intellectual discourse in the ARTICLE that was posted on this thread. Don’t get all holier than thou and try to tell me about saving babies. You don’t know me and you don’t need details about my personal life, nor did I ask for YOURS. The FACT is, you defended this piece of garbage and now you act as if the whole thread is about personally saving babies. THIS ARTICLE is by some leftist, so-called religious fop who advocates allowing SOME babies to die for political reasons...and about letting yourself feel better about it.
Shame on you for trying to change the subject and act as though you did not understand what the man was saying. Unless you DIDN’T understand and now can’t bring yourself to admit you were wrong for defendng the indefensible.
I posted my rant in #20...and could have said alot more.
This whole abortion thing still rests on the “rights of the mothers” entirely ...especially if they have the child.
Most address the child after the fact and prescious few address what really is at the root of all these pregnancies...having sex outside of marriage... and they want to be taken seriously once they find themsleves pregnant...then the drama begins...the “informed decisions” suddenly are significant...and always the Mother is elevated either way she turne...oh the struggle..oh the what am I going to do re-runs.
As you see I have zip zero compassion for the woman selling their stories. They all pulled their pants down knowing full well the result could very well be a child.
“So, for example, a Christian, based on the central claims of his faith, has good reason to believe that the unborn from conception is a moral person and thus his neighbor. Nevertheless, he may have a difficult time placing that belief in our laws if he lives in a society in which most of its citizens cannot “see” the unborn’s personhood. In that case, the Christian, relying on the principle of prudence, may opt for more modest attempts at shaping policy that provide a means to teach his compatriots about the sanctity of human life (as well as to protect as many innocent persons as possible). So, he and his church may support a partial-birth-abortion ban, since it requires that their compatriots confront this gruesome procedure and what it does to a being that seems obviously to be one of us.”
No where does he advocate letting babies die for political reasons. That one would malign a sincere pro life Christian by your misreading and assumptions is uncharitable and shows a lack of comprehension. Bottom line in tackling public policy on abortion you can not win all the battles right away. The battles that are easiest to win are the ones where you can appeal to what is obvious to most people. For example the fact that partial birth abortions are performed on late term pre born is a gruesome and horrible procedures. It does not take much public education to show that fact. However it is harder to get many people to an understanding that early abortions even though they don’t involve potentially viable fetuses are just as wrong. This wrong is evident to pro lifers both from scientific arguments and philosophical arguments. Such arguments are not obvious to many people especially those brought up in a culture where abortion is an accepted norm. It is much harder to push for public policy if the reasoning behind that proposed policy is not understood. So you do what you can. You do it by education. You do it by fighting for laws such as requiring ultrasounds for those considering aborition. You do it by requiring parental consent for minors who want to have an abortion. You do it by providing real support for women who are pregnant in difficult circumstances.
Deciding that you are going to first bring people’s attention to the horrors of late term abortion does not mean you have become an advocate of early term abortion. At some point it becomes possible to leave the argument that abortion is wrong because concrete facts of fetal age and method to abortion is wrong because of abstract philosophy such as personhood and principles of natural law.
This understanding takes a revolution in how many people see the argument over abortion. Which is now couched for the most part in terms of a woman’s right to choose. Until we see more people gaining an understanding of the foundation for opposing abortion the less likely it will be to change laws regarding it.