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To: stfassisi

“Our system in the US grew out of a Calvinistic view of God that is not Catholic,this is why it’s failing.”

My opinion for its cause of failure is that material prosperity and a general loss of faith have caused people to be less disciplined and indulge in their basest desires, leading them to abandon the original principles behind the Constitution. Until the 1960’s I’d say the system was working quite well.

“True Liberty is NOT the right to do whatever one pleases- like read pornography,have an abortion,homosexuality etc..”

No disagreement there.

“Some people think this might lead them to happiness and these are all protected under the US constitution today.”

I don’t think they are actually protected because of the constitution, but because of a perversion or bypassing of the Constitution. Correct me if I’m wrong, but none of these were allowed in the earlier days of America, and we still had the Constitution then.

“True Liberty is freedom from error ,dear brother.”

Yes, it is. I’ve been wondering something, though, about the nature of freedom. We’d both agree that there is no freedom to, for instance, view porn, although the sin only directly harms yourself, right? How is that consistent with having freedom of religion, which allows for heresy (something that only directly harms yourself), being allowed?


16 posted on 04/01/2011 3:16:56 PM PDT by WPaCon (Obama: pansy progressive, mad Mohammedan, or totalitarian tyrant? Or all three?)
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To: WPaCon
I> I don’t think they are actually protected because of the constitution, but because of a perversion or bypassing of the Constitution

The constitution does not define God according to Catholic Dogma.If it did there could be no perversion to bypass.

We’d both agree that there is no freedom to, for instance, view porn, although the sin only directly harms yourself, right? How is that consistent with having freedom of religion, which allows for heresy (something that only directly harms yourself), being allowed?

Great question dear friend.

Because God gave man a free will we will always have the ability to error and not follow true freedom.

Religious and non religious pluralism has made america weak and un-united.

Belloc understood that muslim countries in time would be somewhat united and powerful or become a pawn of communists. I think the latter is going to happen.

17 posted on 04/01/2011 3:48:57 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: WPaCon

Dear friend ,I came across this very good article from the Remnant Catholic Newspaper.It’s the best chance to help the US

http://www.remnantnewspaper.com/Archives/2010-1015-ferrara-tea-party-christ-king.htm


18 posted on 04/02/2011 9:22:47 AM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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