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To: lastchance; Turtlepower; Gamecock; metmom; RnMomof7; presently no screen name; editor-surveyor; ...
However there is a distinct number of people on Free Republic who use this scandal and its horrors to condemn everything about the Catholic Church even its dogmas. They are never concerned about sex abuse victims except for those who were victims of priests. They don’t care about other institutions shuffling abusers and covering up abuse. They are not even willing to admit that perhaps in some instances false accusations have been made. Though som.accusers have admitted such and withdrawn their complaints.

Everything is not about the wrongs done by clergy and bishops. It is about hating Catholicism and hoping and praying that this crisis will lead the the Church’s downfall and her silence.

There are two groups who embrace this idea. The first is the liberal secularists who hate the Church’s defense of life and Christian morality. The second is those rabid, vitrolic Protestants who hate Catholicism and Catholics. Guess who the group on FR are???

Lovely.

Yet notice the very first comment you made in this post was to deflect attention away from 37 accused priests in one city in one diocese and onto public schools...

It is also the concern of faithful Catholics. It is also the conccern of those who see cover up of sexual abuse in other institutions such as public schools.

The really pathetic thing about this entire scandal is that Protestants seems to be more concerned about the welfare of Roman Catholic children than their own parents are.

Maybe those who defend these pederasts don't have children. God forgive those who do.

475 posted on 03/27/2011 1:43:22 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: lastchance; Dr. Eckleburg
What part of the RCC do they think is not part of our society? What part don't they get it's not about them but the victims? The RCC isn't in a bubble to carry on their fantasies as they now realize they are in the hands of the law - and ignored the law in this instance for six years. What part about being above the law do they think applies to them?

They are never concerned about sex abuse victims except for those who were victims of priests. They don’t care about other institutions shuffling abusers and covering up abuse.

Prove it Prove it. I never saw any such posts nor know anyone thinking that way. All I seen is consistent - finger pointing away from the problem and casting blame on any one that dare speak/post about this type of abuse - from the DA, to the judge, to the media, to posters - all subject to derogatory remarks such as yours.

Reminder - there are those who oppose homosexuality are not members of your church - so they probably could give a flip about your priests - so to say anyones only concern is about priests pedophiles is really a low blow to parents everywhere. Are you speaking as a representative of the RCC? Seems like it doesn't stop with abusing children - now they reach out to offend parents everywhere. When a pedophile is part of society - he affects the whole society - lock them up. Why is the RCC dragging their butt on this matter?

They are not even willing to admit that perhaps in some instances false accusations have been made.

Well by now it was possible to know the truth - if the Grand Jury 2005 report wasn't ignored by the RCC. Should we think the PA RCC official possibly covered up innocent priests?

The first is the liberal secularists who hate the Church’s defense of life and Christian morality.

You mean the same liberals who embrace homosexuality? This isn't about abortion but homosexuality. The RCC are not the only ones holding the defense of life - that's belongs to the majority of Americans - no matter what the faith. I don't think you want to address that the liberal media is coming after the morality of your church - first one needs to show they have it first - and the Grand Jury report shows otherwise. Where was morality shown the victims in PA and to every other victim throughout the country.

The second is those rabid, vitrolic Protestants who hate Catholicism and Catholics. Guess who the group on FR are???

That's a vile statement - what proof do you have any Protestant hates Catholics? I'd have to hate all of my 40+ cousins and 3/4 of my 'growing up' friends. What part of hating evil is so repellent to you that you don't think anyone does? What part of hating sin and it's cover up isn't biblical? What part of justice are victims not entitled to? What part of justice does the RCC ignore?

Though som.accusers have admitted such and withdrawn their complaints.

Now is it your turn to withdrawn your complaints?
520 posted on 03/27/2011 2:57:21 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

You managed to cherry pick what I wrote to lead people to believe I do not condemn abuse. Try not to do that. I was very clear to state that I agreed with the concerns expressed by Turtlepower (?). I also in other posts in this thread said I wanted all the evidence allowed by law to be reviewed by the jury and if that lead to a guilty verdict so be it.

The fact of abuse does not change fact that many are using it as a means to condemn the Catholic Church and Catholics for Catholic beliefs and teachings.


543 posted on 03/27/2011 3:55:37 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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