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So now you have the 'motivation' of the law, etc. Talk about baseless accusations.

Not the law, but the media. In case you haven't noticed, those venues are a hotbed of liberalism, and have been pushing both (not only unlimited, but taxpayer funded) abortion and the homosexual agenda. They'd love to shut down the Church, because it is in the way of both.

So now the media is belaboring the accusation and totally ignoring what was shown in the 2005 grand jury report of harboring of the RCC.

If you reread my statement, you will see I said the media will belabor ANY report (justified or not).

If justified, let the chips fall where they may.

If not, you end up with the press burning an innocent priest at the stake of public opinion, a stigma which will follow them the rest of their life, and before any investigation is conducted. What happened to innocent until proven guilty?

One does not get to be a priest by taking courses at a correspondence divinity school while driving truck, rather it is an involved process taking a few years. The liberals are not beyond fighting a war of attrition to advance their agenda.

Just what catholics do best - it's someone else's fault.

If you knew anything about Catholicism, you would know the sacrament of Reconcilliation, which requires reflection on one's own faults and shortcomings. It is all about personal accountability to God for our actions. Apparently, you know little of that which you demean.

Another liberal tactic

Sure is. I had thought the secular humanists were the champions of such tactics, but perhaps I err.

383 posted on 03/27/2011 9:23:36 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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They'd love to shut down the Church, because it is in the way of both.

You actually think the RCC is the only one speaking out against homosexuality and abortion? LOL! You might want to get out more and not only read press releases from the vatican.

And that being said - I'd say the RCC is speaking with fork tongue - they speak about against homosexuality and yet; harbor those who are committing those crimes and sins. Let's be real - actions speak louder than words and even when the law came after them, they continue to harbor these criminals and exposing children to further abuse.

but the media. In case you haven't noticed, those venues are a hotbed of liberalism,

Hate to break it to you but the media has no problem with homosexuality - they are liberal PC - so they are in the same camp with the RCC.

If you reread my statement, you will see I said the media will belabor ANY report (justified or not).

Once is enough to read your statement and understand it. However, what part of 6 years and silence is belaboring to you? They had the 2005 Grand Jury report and this is 2011 and it's the first we are hearing about it. Six years of silence isn't belaboring it. It's the harboring that's the issue as the 2011 Grand Jury report shows. Shame catholics don't focus on reality of the crime of harboring instead of focusing on what media does - report it.

What happened to innocent until proven guilty?

You tell us - why didn't the PA RCC official take action to prove any innocence in 2005 instead of the need for another Grand Jury in 2011. What happened? Would they cover up innocent priests?

One does not get to be a priest by taking courses at a correspondence divinity school while driving truck, rather it is an involved process taking a few years. The liberals are not beyond fighting a war of attrition to advance their agenda.

LOL! Yeah, they aim is to take down anyone who spent a few years learning. Remember the media reported it after the DA exposed it. Are you including the DA/law in this accusation of advancing their agenda? What about the victims - do you think they didn't get some years of learning - it's only priests? What part of the victims lives have been destroyed that you know nothing about - or how any of them couldn't continue being productive because they were emotionally shattered? But focusing on the years priests put into their careers seems to be an issue for you. How utterly repulsive.

If you knew anything about Catholicism, you would know the sacrament of Reconcilliation, which requires reflection on one's own faults and shortcomings.

I'm fully aware about Catholicism and I am also know that one must repent - turn from their evil ways. What part did these priest reflect on their own sins - after all, they preach it. And, still, did this official and priests come out and admit any guilt in order for any reconciliation? Nope - it continued for six more years and here we are. And you speak about reflecting when the focus should be the reality they deliberately did the opposite.

It is all about personal accountability to God for our actions. Apparently, you know little of that which you demean.

Excuse me? What does this have to do with me and why the need for accusation? Do you have a problem with others pointing out crimes and sins against society? Where was the personal accountability of the official and priests in 2005 and before? Where is your personal accountability? Do you consider finger pointing a form of personal accountability? If you have no problem with evil; so be it. but I and many DO.

Another liberal tactic....Sure is. I had thought the secular humanists were the champions of such tactics, but perhaps I err.

Perhaps you did. Liberals tactics being played out here by catholics is not new - and not rocket science to see it. Victim hood and control by intimidation are liberal tactics. I see prayers for the priests and even other attempts to make it seem - they are in need of something - and nothing about the victims and their horrible experience.

The true victims are basically ignored but the need to protect a church where the evil exists is rampant. And anyone here, along with the media and the law, speaking out against this evil is vilified and said to be BIAS along with derogatory remarks and innuendos, i.e.Apparently, you know little of that which you demean.

The RCC does not take seriously God's Word about offenses against His children with the noose/neck/sea warning. So now they will suffer because of their unbelief in HIS Word.

The price of their unbelief in 'God's Word is The Final Authority' is now in the hands of earthly law. Can't fall much further than that as they claim they aren't even in submission to God's Supernatural Word - as if they were above that, also. So much for the 'holier than thee' crowd - they have a better more complete way. And their pride is their downfall and is richly deserved.

Check post #308 for more of it.
444 posted on 03/27/2011 1:07:21 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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