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To: editor-surveyor

“The traditions are in most cases based on the word of God.”

Men have created a great many traditions which are based to some degree on the Word of God, however most of them are not very informative, unless you want to learn how best to point out their errors to them. Christ denounced the authors of the Talmud as liars and hypocrites, so that is good enough evidence for me to not put much stock in their writings, especially for use in interpreting the Word of God.

“All of the English translations are weak on the facts that are necessary to truly understand the complete word of God. That is why a critical reading of Talnud is profitable.”

There’s some truth to this statement, but fortunately we have many translations available to compare, along with concordances and a plethora of Christian scholarly analysis if one wants to delve into the deeper meanings of Scripture. When it comes to the basic Gospel message, I think most English translations, excepting of course the ones which have been done in bad faith, convey the necessary truth well enough.


474 posted on 03/29/2011 3:34:57 PM PDT by Boogieman (")
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To: Boogieman

>> “There’s some truth to this statement, but fortunately we have many translations available to compare” <<

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False!

We basically have two translations:

> Those based on the Textus Receptus, which are the most reliable, but still incomplete.

> Those based on the ever useless Wescott/Hort greek manipulation founded on codex vaticanus, which was considered for a millenium by vatican scolars as completely corrupted, and is now somehow to be considered reliable, and the septuagint OT, which lacks the authority of the carefully copied Masoretic texts.

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>> “Men have created a great many traditions which are based to some degree on the Word of God, however most of them are not very informative, unless you want to learn how best to point out their errors to them” <<

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You’re just squirming on this. Talmud has never been questioned as to historic accuracy.

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>> “Christ denounced the authors of the Talmud as liars and hypocrites” <<

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Christ denounced their manipulation of the Law for their own purpose; perhaps you didn’t understand that?

I’m still waiting for the passages that authorize Godly men to strike hands...


475 posted on 03/29/2011 4:51:25 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: Boogieman

“Christ denounced the authors of the Talmud as liars and hypocrites, so that is good enough evidence for me to not put much stock in their writings, especially for use in interpreting the Word of God.”

How could Jesus “denounce the authors of the Talmud as liars and hypocrites”
If the Jerusalem Talmud was written between the 2nd and 5th centuries CE, and the Babylonian Talmud, 70 CE wasn’t completed until the 11th century, CE?

Below are the Rabbinic commentaries- Halakah and Torah that make up the Talmud. In particular, which parts did Jesus denounce?

Zera’im (”Seeds”) - blessings, tithes, temple offerings, agriculture
Mo’ed (”Set Feasts”) - Sabbath laws and holiday observances
Nashim (”Women”) - marriage and divorce
Nezikin (”Damages”) - idolatry, matters of civil law, and the Pirke Avot
Kodashim (”Holy Things”) - sacrificial system in the Temple, dietary laws
Tohorot (”Purities”) - ritual purity and impurity


485 posted on 05/09/2011 9:53:23 PM PDT by Never A Dull Moment
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