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(Glenn) Beck's Bogus Beliefs
TheBereanCall.org ^ | 03-21-2011 | fishtank

Posted on 03/21/2011 7:56:54 AM PDT by fishtank

Beck's Bogus Beliefs

March 2011

by T. A. McMahon

"Glenn Beck, the television and radio talk show host who is best known for his conservative political views, isn't someone whom we would normally address in our newsletter. Our concerns are usually directed at individuals, programs, or organizations that promote spiritual or theological views contrary to the Word of God. Beck, of late, seems to be making himself at home in that realm, and he's attracting many who call themselves Bible-believing Christians. ...

First of all, Glenn Beck is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He may refer to himself as a Christian, but he's certainly not a biblical Christian. The distinction is as wide as hell is from heaven: "Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God" (2 John:9). Mormon doctrine is "another gospel" that exalts "another Jesus." Both false beliefs came out of the deceived and deceiving mind of Joseph Smith. Secondly, "our country" doesn't have "Christian roots," even though some are claiming that our founding fathers were true Christians. Many were not biblical Christians but Christians in name only, who followed the faith of Deism, Masonry, and the philosophy of the Enlightenment. Any early influence in America's history of a biblical nature very likely came from the Pilgrims and the Puritans...."


TOPICS: Current Events; Ecumenism; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: antichristianjihad; antimormonjihad; beck; bogus; christianity; cults; flamebait; glennbeck; lds; mormon; mormonism; mormonjihad; religiousintolerance; talkradio
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To: Colofornian; fabian

...’Cause you know sometimes words have
Two meanings


321 posted on 03/22/2011 8:53:48 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Support the SFTSOPWDIABMTTPBTTASIFTF and stop this needless tragedy!)
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To: fabian; Colofornian
Do not make this thread "about" individual Freepers. That is also a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

322 posted on 03/22/2011 8:56:37 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: greyfoxx39

I’m finding that the more I read the bible, the more offensive Mormonism is to me.


323 posted on 03/22/2011 8:57:08 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Just saying.......)
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To: dragonblustar

The word “atonement” is really getting on my nerves too. It starts to have as little meaning as “balloon payment”, and less feeling than writing a check for student loans.

However, I do find annoying how the LDS constantly (to me) refere to Jesus as “Our savior”. They never seem to want to say “Jesus”. It’s like the church I grew up in that alwasy refered to Jesus as “Christ”. That’s his title (it means redeemer)not His name.

His NAME is JESUS! No word on this Earth has more power that the name JESUS.


324 posted on 03/22/2011 8:58:58 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Support the SFTSOPWDIABMTTPBTTASIFTF and stop this needless tragedy!)
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To: dragonblustar

But I guess if what you mean by “atonment” is just to be the first one to go through a door, what’s the big deal. It was just luck of the draw and accident of birth order that it was Jesus, and everybody gets there now anyway, so whoopee. It might just as well have been your local Bishop.


325 posted on 03/22/2011 9:02:07 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Support the SFTSOPWDIABMTTPBTTASIFTF and stop this needless tragedy!)
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To: Colofornian

You sinner! LOL! Better get with the Roy program so you will stop that :-)


326 posted on 03/22/2011 9:05:28 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Support the SFTSOPWDIABMTTPBTTASIFTF and stop this needless tragedy!)
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To: editor-surveyor
Is Palin falling into the same chasm as Beck?

If you are referring to the "chasm" I think you are, it is strictly a "no girls allowed" zone.

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Neither the organization that originated the handshake, nor the organization that stole it allows women to play in their clubhouse.

327 posted on 03/22/2011 9:10:07 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (White House war strategy 2011: Sun Tzu meets Barney Fife..H/T Iowahawk)
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To: T Minus Four
I usually attend an Evangelical Free (non-denominational), but this past Sunday, I attended my neighborhood PCA (Presbyterian) and I really enjoyed attending your denomination with you. All are acceptable Bible teaching and believing Lord's Church.
328 posted on 03/22/2011 9:29:24 AM PDT by colorcountry (Comforting lies are not your friends. Painful truths are not your enemies.)
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To: colorcountry

I’m at a new church now but I still love my old one and maintain ties. Hey, we have a Calvary Chapel in the area now!


329 posted on 03/22/2011 9:40:24 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Support the SFTSOPWDIABMTTPBTTASIFTF and stop this needless tragedy!)
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To: T Minus Four

I heard that on the radio. Lots of Christian Churches turning up along the Wasatch Front. God is working in a mighty way here. I hope FReepers don’t forget that Utah is a dynamic and fertile mission field.


330 posted on 03/22/2011 9:42:38 AM PDT by colorcountry (Comforting lies are not your friends. Painful truths are not your enemies.)
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To: LS; Elsie; Colofornian
Just as a matter of curiosity, does your defense of Glenn Beck have anything to do with this?

Your FR Home Page

AND THIS

Article by the AUTHOR of "The Revolutionary Debt Bomb – And How the Founders Fixed It!"-at GlennBeck.com

OR THIS?

Week 5 HIST 1700: .....and Glenn Beck

AND....$$$ from book sales?

331 posted on 03/22/2011 9:46:17 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (White House war strategy 2011: Sun Tzu meets Barney Fife..H/T Iowahawk)
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To: colorcountry
I hope FReepers don’t forget that Utah is a dynamic and fertile mission field.

That it is indeed. The Christian church across from my gym has a sign you can see as you leave the parking lot that says, "you are now entering your mission field"

332 posted on 03/22/2011 9:48:06 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Support the SFTSOPWDIABMTTPBTTASIFTF and stop this needless tragedy!)
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To: greyfoxx39

Ooooh, good call Grey!


333 posted on 03/22/2011 9:49:38 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Support the SFTSOPWDIABMTTPBTTASIFTF and stop this needless tragedy!)
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THX1138 groupies are at it big today (place marker)


334 posted on 03/22/2011 10:11:36 AM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: T Minus Four

I agree.

I guess I’m just getting sick and tired of the way they use Jesus to sell their gold plated pack of lies. I am ashamed that it has taken me so long to feel like that.


335 posted on 03/22/2011 10:28:02 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Just saying.......)
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To: dragonblustar

I can’t believe how long I lived in Utah and never knew what they were about. The people are so nice. It’s such an attractive death.


336 posted on 03/22/2011 10:32:27 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Obama has now fired more cruise missiles than all other Nobel Peace prize winners combined)
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To: greyfoxx39

Ah, the famous ad hominem attack. Pure leftism at work. Congrats.


337 posted on 03/22/2011 11:04:43 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: fabian

I listen to Roy and agree with him in parts and disagree with him in parts.

He does teach that going to church is unnecessary, and says Jesus didn’t intend for people to go to church, but obviously He did, He instructed St. Paul to set up churches to reach the gentiles and St. Paul talks in his books about the structure and practice of the church, and the qualifications to be a deacon, etc.

The books of the Bible that Paul wrote were, in fact, letters to the various churches Paul had set up, and Paul references the churches that Peter set up, so obviously Peter was doing Jesus’ will in setting up churches, as well...

As far as sin goes, Roy says Christians don’t sin, I don’t think that is Biblical. “I would have you not sin, but nevertheless, if we DO sin, we have an advocate in Christ Jesus.” Roy says he is not perfect, but is becoming perfect. I don’t have a problem with that, Jesus said “Be ye therefore perfect, as your Father in Heaven is perfect,” there’s no conflict in that.

As far as the meditation goes, it’s not hypnotic, it’s anti-hypnotic, if you do it the right way. It just lets you become aware of how lost in your thoughts and emotions you are. To me, that is a good thing.

I don’t think the meditation saves your soul, that is obviously the work of the shed blood and sacrifice of Jesus Christ. We’re saved through belief in Him, because our righteousness is as dirty rags, as God said.

Neither does works save us, “lest man may boast.” No matter how perfect Roy or any other man on Earth becomes, that won’t bring him salvation...it’s the shed blood of the Lamb of God, just like it was the shed blood of a lamb over the doorway that spared the Hebrews from the angel of death in the OT.

I heard Roy say that the moment he falls to temptation and gets angry,and sins, then he’s lost, he won’t go to Heaven. That, to me, is the wrong belief. It’s not the perfect control of sin and reaction that saves us, it’s Jesus. Paul said “I preach Jesus, and Him crucified,” not “I preach self-control, and not falling to temptation.”

Obviously we are required to not fall to temptation, and Paul talks in great detail about putting off the old man, the lower nature, and casting off all that is unnecessary, striving for the path of salvation, but it isn’t, in my opinion, our perfect adherence to that that saves us or condemns us, but it always comes down to recognizing we’ve sinned, and throwing ourselves on the mercy of Jesus to ask forgiveness.

Ed


338 posted on 03/22/2011 11:16:10 AM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: LS; Elsie; fishtank
Jesus said to His disciples who were concerned about other ministers not in ‘their’ group, “He who is not against us is with us.” I fail to see how Beck is against us on almost anything.

Well, let's see. This Web site says it's devoted to "God" -- not the plural gods of Mormonism! "Welcome to Free Republic! America's exclusive site for God, Family, Country, Life & Liberty constitutional conservative activists!"

(How long have you've been ignorant that Mormons believe in multiple gods? -- including a council of gods who appointed a MAN to become a god of this world...and this "god" is married)

* Beck has a taped "missionary tool" product for the Mormon church (Deseret).
* Beck's religion, like Islam, labels Christians as "apostates." (Muslims call us "infidels").
* Beck's religion labels Christian creeds as being 100% putrid to the Mormon gods.

...those who constantly carp at other consrvatives, even in a “RELIGION” forum, seem to be offending the Biblical injunction to remove the plank in your own eye.

Q1: Did you happen to take the plank out of your own eye before you made this statement? Or did you just, plank-eyed, proceed with invasive surgery upon Fishtank's eyes?

Comment: Now, I confess, I made an assumption there that may or may not be true: That your eyes were full of planks/beams. But I had a point to make: YOU didn't have anymore info about the alleged "planks" in Fishtank's eyes than I did about your eyes. Yet that didn't stop you from making that assumption, did it?

Do you know Fishtank? If not, why did you assume you did? (That you knew the conditions of his eyes)

Let's review Luke 6: 41 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 42 How can you say to your brother, ‘Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye."

Q2: Now, what other assumptions are usually made by those who like to use the verse you used like a club?

A:
* That plank-free spiritual eyes don't exist (except their own eyes, of course)
* That plank surgery wasn't already done in the past
* That nobody's qualified (except them, of course) to ever actually get to the stage of sawdust removal.
* That a given cultist who might be headed to hell only needs a minor sawdust procedure...as opposed to something else more urgent & critical given the significant spiritual healing need @ stake for those trusting in certain church membership (D&C 1:30), temple rituals & "you-can-do-ism" to live forever with God the Father.

It's time for you to fess up that your assumption-laden accusations don't match the context from you lifted it.

339 posted on 03/22/2011 11:21:06 AM PDT by Colofornian
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