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To: dangus; All
First and foremost...GOD has NO mother.

The Christ child had a earthly mother, when the Bible says "mother of God"; it is only in reference to the earthly mother role of Christ, who is God, but it does not infer a higher role as to the actual mother of God as in God the Father, as if God had some sort of a beginning...that kind of thinking is blaspheming God as eternal and blasphemes Christ's deity as having no beginning.

30 posted on 03/20/2011 12:06:18 AM PDT by bibletruth
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To: bibletruth

>> First and foremost...GOD has NO mother.
The Christ child had a earthly mother, when the Bible says “mother of God”; it is only in reference to the earthly mother role of Christ, who is God, but it does not infer a higher role as to the actual mother of God as in God the Father, as if God had some sort of a beginning...that kind of thinking is blaspheming God as eternal and blasphemes Christ’s deity as having no beginning. <<

Absolutely CORRECT. And now you have just hit on the VERY REASON why the Catholic Church insisted on the name, “Theotokos,” (Mother of God). Heretics were insisting that Jesus was either fully human (and therefore not God), or fully God (and therefore not human at all). By asserting that God had a mother, they were NOT asserting that Mary was a God, but that Christ had both natures, which were inseparable.

This is precisely why she had to be immaculately conceived: If she had the taint of sin, her very blood would desecrate God! That’s right: As mother, her very blood was sustaining the life within her that was God! It HAD to be pure.

Now, Christ permitted himself to be desecrated, but it was evil that he was desecrated, an evil which he permitted, but did not commit. To be born in an impure vessel would be God himself committing an act of evil against God’s own holiness.

It’s of course a mysterious, incomprhensible miracle that God would allow himself to be sinned against so gravely as to be killed on a cross, to demonstrate his love for us.

But the incarnation, itself, is also an amazing miracle: That a human being could be made pure enough to contact God in a manner which was not a desecration makes our admittance into the throneroom of God comprehensible.

To ask, “What Would Jesus Do” is a great reminder of our call to holiness. But we do lack Jesus’ divine nature. It’s also fitting to ask how someone who lacks Jesus’ divine nature, but has been made worthy of him, would respond. So Catholics look to the commands of Christ, such as “Do this in memory of me,” “Go forth and preach the good news,” etc. But when we want to know how to “love God with all your heart, with all your soul and with all your might,” we also look to the simple response, “Let it be done to me, O LORD, according to thy will.”


37 posted on 03/20/2011 12:29:49 AM PDT by dangus
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To: bibletruth
It does not mean before God. The Title "Mother of God". It is there to signify 1John 4 . Divinity became man. It signifies that God wanted to come to humankind through a Mother to enter humanity. Which is exactly what he did. Otherwise you are dening 1 John4. Why because God chose this way.

He became a baby weaned by Mary his mother to grow up into a man. So God wanted this to be. And so it is what it is. If you read about the two natures of God you will be able to understand. He was Human and Divine.

She was his mother as he also had and will always have his divinity forever. Since this is reality she is his Mother forever ever since He became human with her. And he is also human now as we speak too. So dual nature of Christ makes her the Mother Of God. If this is not true why did God come from a mother into humanity. Because she just is his mother period.

Wether you know it or not you disrespect God. Because if you do not believe Christ came in the flesh you do not have him in you. Thus he came in the flesh thru a Mother who is Christ's humanity yet with his divinity. Otherwise he is not Christ.

Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!!! AMEN!! AMEN!!

38 posted on 03/20/2011 12:38:17 AM PDT by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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To: bibletruth

I don’t think you’ll find a well-edumicated Catholic who disagrees. To call Mary “Theotokos” or “Deipara” is to proclaim the wonder and mystery of the Incarnation.

This coming Friday, 3/25, we Catholics have our second Lenten feast. (Yesterday we celebrated St. Joseph.) It is the Annunciation. That’s not a Marian feast, it’s a feast of the Incarnation.

The self-emptying (Phillipians 2) of Him who was begotten outside of time, leads us to praise Him and everything about Him. His mother is one of those “things about Him” whom we praise.


65 posted on 03/20/2011 5:03:00 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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