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If you have the calling to speak to the Dawkins crowd, you must answer the call, but remember that the full truth is always revealed only to relatively few who seek truth and wisdom faithfully and as disciples of the great masters. The Dawkinses have always been with us. Five years from now they will be replaced by some new fad that feeds on death. They are nothing more or less than the world which is already passing away. At times it seems clear that they don’t even want to refute other arguments, they just want to suck people into an argument that itself will drag everyone down to death. They want us to speak like them: at one time ironic, condescending, and spiteful, and at another time with a false modesty that feeds on ignorance, tepidity, sloth, and death."

I very much appreciate — and agree — with "Van" at the link you provided. But Gagdad Bob has weighed in there, too. The italics above capture what he said.

Once again, I find myself in profound agreement with his insights.

Thank you so very much, Matchett-PI!

I see my question about Einstein’s theory drew little interest. However, it had a purpose. Not being burdened with the vast storehouse of knowledge of the rest of you, my simple mind is rather straight forward. I was not interested in just the ever-present now versus the ever-changing now, I was leading up to Einstein’s search for the unifying theory, the unifying force which is the center of everything and has been a quest of many. For me, one not even proficient in quadratic equations, but one who has much interest in the Bible and Christianity, the answer seems to be right in front of us. LOVE!

I know that will label me as a simpleton, not sophisticated enough to understand the nuances of such a problem, but instead one who offers a nonsensical solution, but I see love as a dynamic force, one that affects the external, one that can move the atoms and molecules and even the cosmos, one that comes straight from God. Isn’t that what the Bible says? In fact, the Bible says God IS Love! If God is Love and if God is the Center of it all, well .... ???

I suspect those of you more Biblical facile than I can even provide ample citations for such.

snip: They are nothing more or less than the world which is already passing away. At times it seems clear that they don’t even want to refute other arguments, they just want to suck people into an argument that itself will drag everyone down to death. They want us to speak like them: at one time ironic, condescending, and spiteful, and at another time with a false modesty that feeds on ignorance, tepidity, sloth, and death.”

Spirited: Indeed. And it is not as if they are without underlying motive, for they most definitely are. That which fuels them is envy....malignant narcissism plus covetousness.

The early Church Fathers viewed envy as a sin of spirit, and the most evil of all sins, none barred.

At some deep level the “Dawkins” crowd are aware that they have lost or are losing their salvation. We can be sure that they are as a consequence beset by many fears, which are in fact warnings: fear of the void, of death, of aging, of imagination, of night terrors.

However,their cosmically inflated pride nevertheless requires that all others lose their salvation as well. What they have refused they cannot stand for someone else to have. Only in that sense do they covet our salvation while simultaneously rejecting it. For this reason they attack, deride and demean us.

Note the hypocrisy: The attack is spiritual, yet they deny their own souls/spirits, having reduced them to matter in a futile attempt at escaping God the Father.

Only malignant narcissists are capable of such evil. The wills of such people are unsubmitted to the demands of their conscience.